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Offline frankbTopic starter

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Mozilla on Amiga
« on: January 08, 2003, 08:10:55 AM »
A person on #amiga.org@irc.webchat.org (guest user nick) asked if anyone had Moz for the Amiga yet. I mentioned that there were a couple of false starts on the conversion, but that nothing became of it. He replied that it actually DOES exist, and is available from someone in Germany. When I querried where to get it, I got no responce.

I then proceeded on over to MozAmiga and got the same old info thats been there forever (being ported to AmigaDE, blah blah blah).

The question is: Is Mozilla available for AmigaOS, or did my chain just get pulled? :-?
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2003, 08:21:23 AM »
I'd like to see it. I'd then do all my browsing with Mozilla on Amthlon. That'd be a combination to beat.
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2003, 08:51:19 AM »
@frankb

He's just another bull ####ter. If Mozilla existed for the Amiga, we would of heard about it by now.

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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2003, 08:51:21 AM »
I haven't come across it.  But I would like to have it.  I use Mozilla with OS X, Mandrake and BeOS.  No micro$ here.
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2003, 11:24:29 AM »
Speaking of which, Apple have just released a new open source browser called Safari fo OS-X. Seeing as its based on kHTML (part of KDE) would that be an easier port than Mozilla?

Wasnt someone around here investigating porting kHTML recently?

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And why does it bung my signature in even though I uncheck the box? Does that feature work for other people? (I'm on Opera 7b2 WinXP btw)
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2003, 06:59:59 PM »
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Speaking of which, Apple have just released a new open source browser called Safari fo OS-X. Seeing as its based on kHTML (part of KDE) would that be an easier port than Mozilla?

From what I have can tell, the way they were able to port it was with the help of X11 for MacOS X, which is fully integrated into Aqua, and uses Quartz for rendering, so any X11 app can now use the Aqua interface.

To port it to AmigaOS would require the use of either Holger Kruse's X11 port, or Dale Luck/GFXbase's port, neither of which are available/being sold at the moment.
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2003, 08:17:21 PM »
I think that porting Chimera would be a good first choice for browser porting.  Smaller code base breakoff from Mozilla, and Chimera is written for the Mac, so it's already written for PPC.
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2003, 08:21:26 PM »
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charlatn00 wrote:
I think that porting Chimera would be a good first choice for browser porting.  Smaller code base breakoff from Mozilla, and Chimera is written for the Mac, so it's already written for PPC.


Holger Kruse's 'nordic global' website does have a Chimera port listed as one of the clients that have already been ported to Amiga with his X11 library.
It was an alpha version...and it was a graphical web browser...how much this resembles the mac os x chimera, I have no idea.

The early chimera effort was not based on gecko, so I would be surprised if this is a gecko based product....

but its all interesting...didn't holger kruse go work for rebol...why not release this stuff into the pd, if he's not going to make any money on it....
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2003, 08:32:37 PM »
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To port it to AmigaOS would require the use of either Holger Kruse's X11 port, or Dale Luck/GFXbase's port, neither of which are available/being sold at the moment.

Holger Kruse's X11 port, called AmiWin, is _available_.  You can use it ... you just can't register it because Holger has been unresponsive to the Amiga community since he went to work at REBOL.  I don't know what limitations it has without registration, but it seems to work perfectly fine for me when connecting to UNIX servers at work from my home.

Go to http://www.nordicglobal.com and click on the "AmiWin" link.  You can download it from the "Software Download" link on the left side of the page.

@frankb,
As far as Mozilla being available _right now_ for Amiga, that user on IRC was pulling your chain.
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2003, 08:48:15 PM »
If I remember correctly, Chimera was ported as an X11 application for an X11 server running on the Amiga.  It was not ported as an Amiga native application.  And it definitely before they went gecko based!
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2003, 08:53:57 PM »
yes, but this is partially just semantics, if OS 4 builds in X11 into the operating system, then all those ports are 'native' amgia applications.

Its only not 'native' because its not.  

But yes, I figured it was before being gecko based, that would be too easy :-)
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2003, 08:58:59 PM »
damn sad no one has ported it yet.... its open source and been around for a long time.. Says something about how tiny the amiga community is now  :-x
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2003, 09:19:06 PM »
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damn sad no one has ported it yet.... its open source and been around for a long time.. Says something about how tiny the amiga community is now  :-x


Maybe the size of the project is the major deterant.  I can't imagine that it would be easy or fun.  Recall when netscape released their source code.  A few coders had a stab at an amiga version.  It took days to compile.   Now that the amiga has G3/G4 CPU's it might be more realistic but not until there is an OS4.  AmigaDE....... hmmmmm no thanks  :-D
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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2003, 09:24:33 PM »
From the manual of the AmiWin 2.22 demo package:


Restrictions
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   The evaluation version has a number of restrictions that are not
present in the registered version:
   * In the unregistered version the number of clients connected to the
     X server at any time is limited to 4 (128 in the registered
     version).
[...]


For me, this is the most important restriction. But there are
other X11 ports for Amiga:

- DaggeX can be found on Aminet

- AmiWin can be found at http://dspach.free.fr/     -> Check it out!

Kind regards,

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Re: Mozilla on Amiga
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2003, 09:44:01 PM »
Don't forget X11R6.3@GeekGadgets!

ftp://ftp.geekgadgets.org/pub/geekgadgets/amiga/m68k/alpha/X11/

Great that GeekGadgets is up running again :-D
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