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Offline Blomberg

ARGH! Help!
« on: October 24, 2002, 06:08:03 PM »
What is this? And how do I get rid of it?

I'm talking about the 'Messenger' box in the middle of the picture in case anyone didn't get that.

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Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2002, 06:15:01 PM »
Now thats easy:

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1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
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Offline whabang

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2002, 06:15:47 PM »
Try running AdAware.
Usually gets rid of most such crap...
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

Offline Elektro

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2002, 06:16:12 PM »
looks like microsoft messenger or something like that you should be able to uninstall it

http://www.google.com/search?q=tjenesten%20messenger&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Offline Ilwrath

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2002, 06:18:22 PM »
Hahaha!  (Sorry...  I just find these amusing!)

Ok, now, to remove them, simply switch operating systems.  ;-)  For example, Amiga, Linux, and MacOS don't suffer anything like this.

That's probably impractical, though....

What it is is a very dispicible new form of spam, which is delivered to you by NetBIOS and Microsoft's Windows Messaging Service.  

Wired has an article all about it.

Your best solution to removing them (and locking down your box!) is a good firewall software.  Might I recommend Zone Alarm, from Zone Labs.

They have a free (for personal use) firewall that is one of the best for Windows.  

Really, these alert boxes are the least of your worries, with all the security problems Windows has.  Get yourself a good firewall.  You won't regret it.
 

Offline whabang

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2002, 06:20:49 PM »
OK, perhaps AdAware wasn't the best choise, then...

On the other hand, it's there to remove Spyware... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2002, 06:33:21 PM »
Wow. Now that's a security hole.

If you wanna see real intrusion though, wait till the porn companies get their hands on that software.  :-o :shocked: :lol:
 

Offline Blomberg

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2002, 06:35:21 PM »
Yea, har har har, really funny intil it happens to you!! :-x

@ Ilwrath

Thank you for that article, that was a good constructive answer to a genuine concern (of mine).
So, would it be enough to disable the desktop messenger? I can't be arsed to install a bloody software firewall again, it's hell! May have to get a router, then.

@ Elektro

This has nothing to do with MSN Messenger

@ Whabang

Yes, it's about time I run AdAware again, though I don't think it can help me in this case

@ Blahblahchangeoperatingsystemgetanamigablahblah

Ok, then GIVE ME A FRIGGING AMIGAONE ALREADY!!

Offline Elektro

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2002, 06:39:20 PM »
Well if it's netbios you can turn it off in tcp/ip settings

what does tjenesten mean?
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Offline Blomberg

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2002, 06:42:11 PM »
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Well if it's netbios you can turn it off in tcp/ip settings
How?

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what does tjenesten mean?
It means 'The Service' as in Windows 2000's 'Services'

Offline olegil

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2002, 06:43:14 PM »
By accessing the tcp/ip settings and turning netbios off  :-P
 

Offline Elektro

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2002, 06:46:18 PM »
"Microsoft's Windows Messaging Service."

or

"msn messenger"

all the same schitt  :-P
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Offline Blomberg

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2002, 06:56:05 PM »
I have now disabled the Services:
Messenger
and
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service

Will this do the trick?
What does NetBIOS do, besides spam me?

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Elektro wrote:
"Microsoft's Windows Messaging Service."

or

"msn messenger"

all the same schitt  :-P
Erm ... no
Windows Messenger service is a 'service' for adminstrators to send administrative messages to other users on a computer or local network (I think).
Msn Messenger is a program you use to chat with your friends (like ICQ)

Offline Ilwrath

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2002, 07:28:56 PM »
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I have now disabled the Services:
Messenger
and
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service

Will this do the trick?
What does NetBIOS do, besides spam me?
 


Hmm... I *think* that should do the trick, but I'm not sure.  I'm much better at building (corporate level) firewalls than securing individual boxes.  If you page through your TCP/IP settings, make sure you do NOT have "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" checked, and if you can check your "bindings", make sure that Windows Networking or File and Printer Sharing are NOT bound to TCP/IP, either.  For standard browsing and FTP, IRC, etc, you don't actually need ANYTHING bound to TCP/IP (which seems counter-intuitive, but it's the truth)

NetBIOS itself is part of Microsoft's networking setup.  As I understand it, it's the stuff that lets the OS enable File/Printer sharing, automatic computer locating/naming on LAN/WAN, and some other functionality, including messaging.  It contains the sharing that SAMBA connects to, plus more stuff.
Not a great technical explaination, but Microsoft never quite gives you the whole story, and you have to kind fill in the blanks on your own.

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Windows Messenger service is a 'service' for adminstrators to send administrative messages to other users on a computer or local network (I think).


Correct you are on this.  And it is quite different from MSN messenger.  

The security risk, is that if someone can get to your NetBIOS enough to send messages, they can also get into your file and printer sharing, and lord knows how many other security holes.  Pop-Up messages are annoying, but not nearly as annoying as if someone steals (copies) a private data file, or deletes a key file windows needs.  Both of which are trivial, if you have that level of access to a remote machine...  Be careful.  Firewalls can be a pain, but they're a lot less painful than the alternative.  Ok, I'm done preaching, now.
 

Offline Elektro

Re: ARGH! Help!
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2002, 09:18:38 PM »
Bah what do i care! hah!

 :lol:
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