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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2004, 08:53:44 PM »
Yeah, that worrks!!

So now I've gotten this far that I have the kick.rom in my RAM disk. A page on the internet says something about Crossdos? Where can I find that?

(the page I refer to is http://ale.emuunlim.com/get-kick-rom.htm)
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2004, 09:03:01 PM »
Well, "PCO" IS CrossDos  :-P  :-P  :-P

Just put the file on the disk, throw it into the WinUAE-drawer on your laptop, start WinUAE, select the file, and let the emulated Amiga boot.

This should give you that old animated disk-drive, you may have seen
if you ever had an Amiga without HD.

Next step would be transfereing your WB.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2004, 09:33:17 PM »
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cgutjahr wrote:
If you're formatting HD disks to 720K (these have an additional hole, across from the write protect/enable hole), your PC becomes confused. Use black tape or sth. like that to cover the additional hole and your PC will think it's a DD disk.


Be careful, using HD disks as DD can cause them to corrupt, so don't use them to store valuable data !!

You've been warned ...........
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2004, 11:25:04 AM »
This is rather stupid... yesterday my internet connection died so I could not ask here but I have encountered a problem... When my Amiga starts up, the RAM disk is full already. It contains drawers:
-Clipboard (which is empty)
-ENV (which contains KICKSTART (which I mistook for the kick.rom earlier), WORKBENCH and a drawer SYS)
-T

Info says that the RAM disk is 100% full, so I can't copy the kick.rom there... Atleast it doesn't show there... Any advice on what I should do now? I'm rather ashamed I'm bothering you guys with these questions...
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2004, 11:41:10 AM »
Hello!

It's because you have to select from the WB menu to "show all files". Workbench shows only the files that have an icon attached to it as default, that's why you have to tell Workbench to show you all the files.

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2004, 11:48:56 AM »
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Info says that the RAM disk is 100% full, so I can't copy the kick.rom there... Atleast it doesn't show there... Any advice on what I should do now? I'm rather ashamed I'm bothering you guys with these questions...

don't worry . . Ram Disk size is always showed as 100% full. (it is a dynamic size)

Ciao



 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2004, 11:59:11 AM »
Be calm!

It is always full because the ram disk is not of a specified size - it will dynamically grow as you store things on it. It is finite though, there is danger of  filling all the ram you have if you don't pay attention to how much you're storing on the ram drive.

We don't mind all the questions, so long as you don't let the uniqueness of the Amiga become a reason to get fed up with it and abandon it. Anything worth having is worth pursuing.
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2004, 12:49:52 PM »
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I'm rather ashamed I'm bothering you guys with these questions...

Don't be, questions like yours are exactly what forums like a.org were invented for :-).

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2004, 09:09:33 PM »
Thanks alot guys :) Very kind of you!

Meanwhile I still didn't pull it off... The kick.rom doesn't appear on my RAM disk.
I did the folowing steps:

I inserted the disk with the transrom on it, the transrom I found in WinUEA. and mounted PC0
 
In Shell I typed:

PC0:
COPY TRANSROM RAM:

The floppy clicks one time.
Then I typed:

RAM:
TRANSROM RAM:KICK.ROM

The Amiga obviously did something for a while, the screen started flashing and I saw all these codes appear in SHELL.
After it was done I typed:

RAM:
COPY KICK.ROM PC0:

This is where things go wrong, because I get the following message: can't open kick.rom for input - object not found

... I suck :D Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? (good lord, this is only a small file, lord knows how many obstacles I'll have to face before I'll get UAE and Octamed running ;) )
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2004, 10:39:47 PM »
Left out the redirect, sending all that lovely data spilling all over your shell (the 'codes' you saw) instead of into the file?

TRANSROM > RAM:KICK.ROM
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2004, 11:29:22 PM »
Who said Amiga has no future? Me and my Amiga, we'll keep eachother busy till the end of days ;) Hahaha... Can you believe I've been sratching my head about this all day? I got the command lines from this page: http://ale.emuunlim.com/get-kick-rom.htm It looked rather reliable so I did not doubt it at all... All I needed was a > in the command line...
Thank you very, very much! I now have a 512kb kick.rom on my DD disk :) I hope I'll get better at this, I'm afraid I have a long way to go :) Thanks again!

on with the program :)
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2004, 12:12:16 AM »
Erm... okay, so there it is, on my laptop:



What's next? :D
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2004, 12:19:52 AM »
Well....insert a disk...obviously...:-P

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2004, 03:37:05 PM »
And how would I make such a disk :) What needs to go on there? Is there a manual somewhere I can read? I know little about this emulating stuff, so I have to search it on the net, but I have no clue what keywords are important in order to find the right info...
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2004, 03:59:48 PM »
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Erm... okay, so there it is, on my laptop:



What's next? :D


Looks a bit like a wallpaper I did a few weeks back :-D

You need a bootable disk, either an emulated floppy or hard drive. Making an emulated hard drive isnt too difficult and it can be made bootable, but then you have to copy/install your workbench on it, else you just get dropped into an amigados shell with not a lot you can do. That can be tricky depending on which version you have.

Basically you need to get your amigaos system files onto your laptop.

When I first set up OS3.1 on winuae back in the day, I basically did the following

1) archived the conents of each amigaos floppy disk in the set to a .lha file on the amiga and then put these onto 720k disks. Lha itself was also added to one of the disks.

2) made a 10Mb hardfile image, "DH0" in winuae and marked it as bootable.

3) copied all the archives I made, plus lha to a folder on the pc and added that folder as a second hard drive "DH1" to the emulation.

5) started the emulation and was dropped into a virtually useless dos shell (since the newly created virtual harddisk is empty). I then typed "cd dh1:" to enter the place I put the archived amigaos disks.

6) I extracted workbench.lha the DH0: with the lha command (lha x workbench.lha dh0:)

What I now had was a barelyy working workbench 3.1 installation, as it was not "installed" properly using the install disk. It naturally needed some modification. Specifically many tools etc. were missing.

7) restarted the emulation, let it boot into its workbench and then extracted the other archives and put the prefs, tools, fonts etc. in their usual place.

8) Lastly I changed the s:startup-sequence file (which was designed for floppy) for the hard drive version from the install archive.

After this point (and making sure it all basically matched a fresh HD installation on my real amiga), I went on to put the picasso96 and other stuff on :-)
int p; // A
 

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Re: switching from Amiga to PC (no soul overboard )
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 08, 2004, 07:07:47 PM »
Thanks alot! It sounds difficult, but I have time on my hands and I'm still eeger to accomplish my plan. I'll get working on it :)