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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2025, 01:36:21 PM »
Why would a PiStorm32 be a good fit for the A1200NG? The machine already has an Arm chip albeit an Orange Pi Zero thing! The Pistorm will content to a Mininig to produce a standalone machine.
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Offline Boing-ball

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2025, 05:30:49 PM »
Why not have a choice between the 2? Unless you are saying the original pi orange module is better than a PiStorm with a Pi4 or CM4? Then can understand your scepticism.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2025, 05:31:24 PM by Boing-ball »
 

Offline SkulleateR

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2025, 07:23:27 PM »
Why not have a choice between the 2? Unless you are saying the original pi orange module is better than a PiStorm with a Pi4 or CM4? Then can understand your scepticism.

Because the connectors on the A1200NG only fit the Orange Pi Zero 3 ;)
 

Offline Boing-ball

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2025, 07:29:39 PM »
Because the connectors on the A1200NG only fit the Orange Pi Zero 3 ;)

A big missed opportunity me thinks. Oh well, be interesting to see how this one goes.
 

Offline SkulleateR

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2025, 07:33:29 PM »
A big missed opportunity me thinks. Oh well, be interesting to see how this one goes.

Don´t think so, the Orange is faster than the Pi3B+ and only a little bit slower than the Pi4B ... you won´t recognize the difference in the emulated Workbench :)
 

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Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2025, 08:57:49 AM »
only fit the Orange Pi Zero 3 ;)

Or does it, ;).
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Offline broadblues

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2025, 09:49:32 AM »
Why not have a choice between the 2? Unless you are saying the original pi orange module is better than a PiStorm with a Pi4 or CM4? Then can understand your scepticism.

It doesn't make sense as they are orthogonal technologies.
 

Offline SkulleateR

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2025, 10:24:07 AM »
Or does it, ;).
Of course you may have some insights on this, but there is no Raspi with that kind of GPIO pinout afaik ! But hey, you could use some sort of adapter, nothing is impossible ;)
 

Offline kolla

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2025, 02:34:37 PM »
Maybe later revisions will allow for some sort of PiStorm add on?

Just FYI, what you ask for doesn't make any sense. PiStorm is specifically a board to interface a _raspberry pi_ with _actual_ amiga hardware, or at least a real 68k CPU bus and either real amiga chipset or chipset on FPGA. This board isn't raspberry pi, doesn't have a 68k CPU bus, and also doesn't have any Amiga chipset hardware.
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Offline kolla

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2025, 02:39:09 PM »
there is no Raspi with that kind of GPIO pinout afaik

There is, the original Raspberry Pi has this (or at least _very_ similar) GPIO pinout.

Of course one can make adapters, but that quickly gets wonky.

If I was AmigaKit (ew) I would have moved to the 40 pin form factor already, and rather have used an adapter for the OPi3zero, as the newer Orange Pies do use the 40 pin form factor for GPIO, just like Raspberry Pi (though I have haven't really checked if they are using same pinout).
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A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
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Offline Boing-ball

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2025, 06:06:27 PM »
It doesn't make sense as they are orthogonal technologies.



Errrrrr……🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️… What!?

Orthogonal Technology is Based on Environmentally Friendly Fluorinated Chemistry. Fluorosolvents and fluoropolymers are non-reactive and non-damaging to organic electronic materials, including OLED. Fluorosolvents do not mix with polar or non-polar materials.

What’s that got to do with the A1200NG?

I think ChatGPT let you down there Bud 😆🤣
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Offline Boing-ball

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2025, 06:14:17 PM »
Just FYI, what you ask for doesn't make any sense. PiStorm is specifically a board to interface a _raspberry pi_ with _actual_ amiga hardware, or at least a real 68k CPU bus and either real amiga chipset or chipset on FPGA. This board isn't raspberry pi, doesn't have a 68k CPU bus, and also doesn't have any Amiga chipset hardware.

FYI. No one has properly explained how this board works. So how do I know. Who is to say that someone comes up with a new PiStorm solution that will work in this board? Stop thinking in 2 dimensions.

Besides it’s a: Orthogonal Technology is Based on Environmentally Friendly Fluorinated Chemistry. Fluorosolvents and fluoropolymers are non-reactive and non-damaging to organic electronic materials, including OLED. Fluorosolvents do not mix with polar or non-polar materials.

According to someone else who used ChatGPT to answer this thread 🙄🤔😆 But I ain’t being a D!Ck about it…

What have we discussed on here in the past… Play nice with others 😉
 

Offline broadblues

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2025, 09:04:13 AM »
FYI. No one has properly explained how this board works. So how do I know. Who is to say that someone comes up with a new PiStorm solution that will work in this board? Stop thinking in 2 dimensions.

Besides it’s a: Orthogonal Technology is Based on Environmentally Friendly Fluorinated Chemistry. Fluorosolvents and fluoropolymers are non-reactive and non-damaging to organic electronic materials, including OLED. Fluorosolvents do not mix with polar or non-polar materials.

According to someone else who used ChatGPT to answer this thread 🙄🤔😆 But I ain’t being a D!Ck about it…

What have we discussed on here in the past… Play nice with others 😉

Well I didn't use the term in that sense, where appears to be an arbitrary  company name, I meant it in the sense of orthogonal axes, in the space of amiga hardware replacement technologies , one is a hardware addition to a software machine, the other is a software addition to a hardware machine, thus they are loosely at least at right angles to each other or "orthogonal".

Thtere is no physical Zorro3 bus to plug a PiStorm into
 

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Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2025, 05:11:21 PM »
nothing is impossible ;)

Indeed its not, ;).
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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2025, 05:32:32 PM »
The deal seems to be, the A1200NG and A600GS are aspirational products in perpetual development which given enough user feedback can be anything that you want them to be! Don't ask what the machine can do for you, instead just buy it on impulse, beta-test the heck out of it and then report to Amigakit what it struggles to do and they'll iterate! I think that sums it up peeps! Take it or leave it. For everyone else there's the Amiga Maxi just around the corner or Pi400, or Vampire 4 SA or MiSTer or soon to be standalone Minimig with PiStorm32.
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Re: A1200NG Updates
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 13, 2025, 09:07:17 AM »
The deal seems to be, the A1200NG and A600GS are aspirational products in perpetual development which given enough user feedback can be anything that you want them to be! Don't ask what the machine can do for you, instead just buy it on impulse, beta-test the heck out of it and then report to Amigakit what it struggles to do and they'll iterate! I think that sums it up peeps! Take it or leave it.

Please stop, what you posted is some of the craziest rubbish I have seen to date.

As you said, take it or leave it, just stop posting complete rubbish like this. Your just sore RGL, do nothing to improve Mini.
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