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Offline garygTopic starter

Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« on: November 13, 2024, 12:40:46 AM »
I bought a new AmigaOne X5040 two months ago but a friend and an IT technician
have been unable to configure it to access the wi-fi network in my community through
the included Opal "wireless travel router".

Another IT guy here recommended an Archer T2UB Nano wireless adapter, but
it only works with Windows. AmigaOS 4.1 doesn't see it.

Has anyone had a positive experience connecting an AmigaOne to the Internet?

Regards
Gary
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2024, 09:06:05 AM »
I bought a new AmigaOne X5040 two months ago but a friend and an IT technician
have been unable to configure it to access the wi-fi network in my community through
the included Opal "wireless travel router".

Another IT guy here recommended an Archer T2UB Nano wireless adapter, but
it only works with Windows. AmigaOS 4.1 doesn't see it.

Has anyone had a positive experience connecting an AmigaOne to the Internet?

Regards
Gary

I have never had an issue with using wireless. Maybe newer routers don't do WPA? only newer WPA2? I know WEP is being phased out.
Admitterly, haven't used wireless in along time. However as I said, never had any issues.
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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2024, 11:58:11 AM »
I bought a new AmigaOne X5040 two months ago but a friend and an IT technician
have been unable to configure it to access the wi-fi network in my community through
the included Opal "wireless travel router".

Another IT guy here recommended an Archer T2UB Nano wireless adapter, but
it only works with Windows. AmigaOS 4.1 doesn't see it.

Has anyone had a positive experience connecting an AmigaOne to the Internet?

Regards
Gary

I don't know if this is of interest to you, but I have had great success hooking up a Sam440 Flex and a Sam460LE to WiFi through a Universal WiFi Range Extender. I've used Netgear model WN3000RP V1H2. This one you plug into the wall socket and you can connect an ethernet cable from your AmigaOne to it and then you are Online. 8) It is easy to set up as well. Hope this helps.

Offline garygTopic starter

Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2024, 01:46:39 PM »
Sounds promising. So, instead of supplying the answer to a lot of technical questions, does
it just display the names of available networks for me to choose and log into?

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2024, 01:53:18 PM »
Using a PC or a mobile phone, which is the easiest way, you select your wanted wireless network during the setup of the adapter as shown in the guide below.

Guide for setting up the extender:

https://kb.netgear.com/24641/WN3000RPv2-initial-installation

Once that is done, connect the AmigaOne with an ethernet cable to the adapter. You can then run the "Connect to Internet" wizard on AmigaOS 4.1, choose Ethernet and auto for configuration, and it should be ready to use. :) Afterwards, the computer will treat it as a normal cabled connection and connect on startup when you boot AmigaOS.
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Offline garygTopic starter

Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2024, 08:37:24 PM »
I just realized that in trying to "tether" my Internet connection to my AmigaOne I
got an error message from the Macintosh OS that it was not permitted due to
802.1x

Would that prevent me from using this?

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2024, 11:49:42 PM »
I just realized that in trying to "tether" my Internet connection to my AmigaOne I
got an error message from the Macintosh OS that it was not permitted due to
802.1x

Doesn't sound like you are using an ordinary "home" wifi, but rather an "enterprise" network, or federated wifi like eduroam.

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Would that prevent me from using this?

Yes, I can imagine 802.1x policy doesn't allow for tethering.

So you need to find a wifi-ethernet bridge that can do 802.1x... from experience I know that the old airport extremes from Apple can do this.
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Offline garygTopic starter

Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2024, 12:13:28 AM »
Yes, I think the community wi-fi network is probably "enterprise".

So, my best bet is to find an old Airport Extreme. Wouldn't that have to be compatible
with my MacBook Pro's OS, which is the newest, 10.15?
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2024, 02:15:36 AM »
So, my best bet is to find an old Airport Extreme.

I don't know if it your best bet, but I can tell that they are capable of 802.1x - ideally you should perhaps find something newer and more actively supported.

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Wouldn't that have to be compatible with my MacBook Pro's OS, which is the newest, 10.15?

Unsure what you ask about here, the airport extreme is pretty much autonomous and the software to set it up exists for many operating systems, I have the "airport" app on my iPhone and macOS. Old OSX 10.15 sure.
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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2024, 09:47:34 AM »
I bought a new AmigaOne X5040 two months ago but a friend and an IT technician
have been unable to configure it to access the wi-fi network in my community through
the included Opal "wireless travel router".

So the travel router is effectively your home router? How have you tried to connect to it? When I Googled “opel wireless travel router”, the first device I found had Ethernet ports: did you try a wired connection to your AmigaOne, or is that impractical?

If you want your AmigaOne to use Wifi directly, the options are the PCI/PCI-E cards supported by the atheros5000.device and prism2.device drivers. It’s possible they support 802.1x through the WirelessManager software they use, which is based on wpa_supplicant.
 

Offline garygTopic starter

Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2024, 04:44:56 PM »
My development places routers in the hallways and inside some apartments. I connect
to the Internet through this MacBook Pro.

I've tried connecting the travel router to the AmigaOne but it seems a lot
of configuration is needed to get it to connect to the Internet and the local
IT people are, of course, unfamiliar with Amiga OS4.1's options.

I don't know how AmigaOne users elsewhere deal with this problem.
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2024, 06:16:26 PM »
I've tried connecting the travel router to the AmigaOne but it seems a lot
of configuration is needed to get it to connect to the Internet and the local
IT people are, of course, unfamiliar with Amiga OS4.1's options.

With a wired connection I assume? If the router does DHCP for connected devices, it shouldn’t be too much trouble to get working with OS4.
 

Offline garygTopic starter

Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2024, 06:19:42 PM »
Well, if connection via USB and Ethernet counts as a "wired connection", yes.

 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2024, 11:53:14 PM »
Connecting the Amiga directly to the wifi is no-go since the wifi is set up with 802.1x authentication, something the Amiga supplicants never supported. Considering the error message when trying to connect via the mac, it seems that policy is set to not allow "tethering" wired devices behind an authenticated device. Depending on where this policy is implemented it may or may not be possible to use a wifi/ethernet "bridge" capable of 802.1x authentication.

This is what you see as the "enterprise" alternative to "pre shared key" (PSK) in the wifi setup, hardly anyone use it with home access points, but it’s used extensively in more professional environments.
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Offline garygTopic starter

Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2024, 12:09:50 AM »
I'm still waiting to hear from the IT people to see if there's a way to around
the 802.1x restriction. Presumably the security protocols have been set
by corporate but perhaps there's some local leeway.

Thanks for the input, though