Severe problems trying to get AmiFox and Aweb running

[Rusty Breadbin]

I am having the devil's own time trying to get any type of web browsing going on AmiBench.

I have downloaded AmiFox (both 68k and 020 versions) and AWeb, both from the links provided in the List of working apps thread.

First up I tried AmiFox 68020, and without changing any options, tried going to Aminet. The page loaded, but as soon as it finished loading, the window shrank to the size as shown in picture 1. The large/small button at the top right corner (not the one that sends apps to back/brings to front) just seems to move the window between top-left/top-middle of the screen, and there is no way to enlarge the window, going to the bottom-right corner and holding LMB on the window enlarge button to drag the screen size simply does not work, it won't do anything.

So I tried the standard 68k version of AmiFox. First of all, bringing up Aminet worked on this one, and I was able to load exactly 2 pages before all subsequent page loads resulted in it complaining about datatypes not loading (picture 2). I tried changing the image type from IFF to JPG as someone suggested in another thread, but that didn't work, it still threw up the datatypes error.
I decided to try loading this forum, typing in forum.amiga.org, and suddenly it did the same thing the 68k version above did, and shrunk the window down with no way to enlarge it! (picture 3). Going back to aminet did the same thing (picture 4) and changing the image type back to IFF did not fix it, it's just stuck on the tiny window size.

So I tried using Aweb. This was even worse. Attempting to install the program, it gets to the screen in picture 5 and goes no further, effectively hanging the install, and short of quitting AmiBench and relaunching, there is no way to Exit out of this install window, and running the Aweb executable simply bring up the error message in picture 6.

Installing games on this has been mostly fine (I've even got the Amiga port of Road Avenger running through AmiBench), but I've found trying to do pretty much ANYTHING in AmiBench a chore at best to totally impossible, as with these two internet apps. It would have been nice to be able to swing in AmiBench, open up a internet browser and download some stuff that I want using the A600GS itself so I didn't have to move the USB drive back and forth between the A600 and my Windoze PC, but if this is the extent of trying to get ANYTHING other than games to run, then it looks like my A600GS is going to be nothing more than a (very good) Amiga games launcher.

I REALLY hope the A600GS devs are going to include a working web browser app in a future firmware update. YAM is nice and all, but I'm not really going to be doing email on this thing.

If anyone has any suggestions on getting either of these to run decently/at all, please post, I'm all ears.

[amigakit]

Hello

A web browser is on our development roadmap.

In the meantime, we fixed the IFF issue.  AK-ILBM datatype was not enabled so we have enabled that for this week's update.

AWeb is confirmed as working.  You will need ClassAct from Aminet as a pre-requisite.  Unfortunately we cannot preinstall this as we do not have a licence to do so.  We may write a script which downloads and  installs these elements from Aminet files to make it easier for users to get AWeb running.

[SkulleateR]

You will need ClassAct from Aminet as a pre-requisite.

Yes, sorry, I forgot to mention that in the working/non working apps thread. Fixed the entry now

[amigakit]

@SkulleateR

Do you want editor access to the Amiga.org Wiki to add your working apps/games list to a page there:  https://wiki.amiga.org/index.php?title=AmiBench_Software

[SkulleateR]

@amigakit

Sure, why not

[Rusty Breadbin]

So I downloaded classact, extracted it to the same place where AWeb was installed, but it turned out that was not enough. I found an assign command in the list of working apps thread, and so altered it to where my install of Aweb is, and after entering that command in a CLI shell window, was finally able to get AWeb running. By god is it slow though.

I noticed it does not support HTTPS (something about needing AmiSSL or MiamiSSL), but was able to bring up Aminet and search it, I downloaded a program to unzip zip files while I was there. It kept telling me the data will be sent over an unsecure connection (because HTTP) and I had to click OK on it quite a bit while using it.

I also noticed I have to run the assign command each time I load AmiBench before running AWeb, so I created a script file to run which has the assign command in it, however I can't get it running from an icon in the Aweb window in AmiBench. I followed an online guide that told me to right click on the file and click information, then in the protection info mark it as Script and Executable. This allows me to run it from a CLI shell window without typing execute first, and to run it from the GUI (according to the guide I followed) I need to assign the default tool in the script's icon to IconX, but it won't start from an icon in AmiBench.

I tested the script I made using an emulator running ClassicWB and it works perfectly when running from on icon in Workbench, so why won't it run on AmiBench? Do I need to do something extra to run it from an icon in AmiBench?

[SkulleateR]

This all sounds that you just EXTRACTED the LHA and try to run AWeb and not EXTRACT & INSTALL ... AWeb sets its assigns while installing it, so should ClassAct. After an Install I was able to just double click the AWeb Icon and it worked fine ...

But be aware, AWeb is OLD, it is not capable of displaying most modern websites, I only use it for fast Aminet search and download, for everything else I use AmiFox

[Rusty Breadbin]

Well as I said (wrote) in my original post, I could not get Aweb to install, as the installer would hang early on (check out my original post above for details), and as for Classcat, which I downloaded from YOUR LINK in the apps working thread, I can't even see an installer file in it, all I can see is a couple of folders and no install script.

So yeah, that's why I just extracted and ran it without installing, as the installer would NOT WORK, IT WOULD JUST HANG.
If the installer had worked I would have installed it.

As for AmiFox, I will try that again after the next update to see if I can get it to work as, again detailed above, that was all kinds of stupidity when I ran it.

[SkulleateR]

If I use MY LINK and extract it, I can see and use an INSTALL (see attachment) ... if you have problems installing, just use the INSTALLER43_3 from Aminet ...

[Rusty Breadbin]

Not wanting to accuse you of failing to read or understand what I wrote, but in case you didn't, I'll say it in a simpler, clearer manner:

I downloaded both AWeb and Classact from your links.

AWEB HAD AN INSTALLER FILE WHICH WOULD EITHER HANG WHEN I RAN IT OR DIE BEFORE RUNNING, THE ONLY WAY OUT WAS QUITTING AMIBENCH - SEE MY ORIGINAL POST AND NEW IMAGE 1 AND 2 BELOW, and YES I CLICKED ON PROCEED WITH INSTALL THERE, IT DID NOTHING EXCEPT HANG THE WHOLE SYSTEM


CLASSACT DID NOT HAVE AN INSTALLER FILE THAT I COULD DISCERN, ONLY A PREFS CONFIG FILE WHICH ALSO FAILED TO RUN.

And forgive me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the installer-43_3 package on aminet a dev package? That what it's described as there... but anyway...

I downloaded and tried out the test install to check it works, and guess what...

IT HUNG TOO, THE ONLY WAY OUT WAS QUITTING AMIBENCH. image3 below, and again YES I CLICKED ON PROCEED WITH INSTALL THERE, IT DID NOTHING EXCEPT HANG THE WHOLE SYSTEM