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Offline AmigaBrunoTopic starter

A1200 trapdoor edge connector problem
« on: August 17, 2024, 04:43:07 PM »
As you may have noticed from my recent posts I’ve had problems with an Amigakit 8Mb RAM card when I tried to upgrade it with an FPU and I’ve just bought an Amitek Hawk RAM accelerator board to try and sort out my Amiga A1200.

I now know that since the same problem has come up with my new/old Amitek Hawk board, the problem must be with my Amiga A1200 itself!

I received my Amiga A1200 back from a repairer on 27-02-2024. I think my Amigakit 8Mb RAM card must have been in there all the time since then until I attempted the FPU upgrade, which meant unplugging the card. It was one of only about 50 of these cards which were too wide to just plug in through the trapdoor. I had to open up my A1200 and plug it in from the other side.

After I reinstalled this card with the FPU fitted, my A1200 became unbootable. The symptoms were the power light on with a black screen, and it may have shown a yellow screen or a red screen once. I disabled the FPU by moving the jumper back to its previous setting. However, after that, I started having problems with my A1200. It either wouldn’t boot up when the full 8Mb of RAM on the card was selected, or only with a very basic Workbench 3.0 with MUI configuration, not with one of the EAB configurations with a multicolour Workbench, Scalos, etc. The symptoms are a line of corrupt pixels in an Amigashell window during boot, and finally a series of low pitched sounds from the SCART TV with a rhythm that sounds a bit like soldiers marching. The full 8Mb RAM did work occasionally, but eventually not at all. My Amiga still worked without this card, or when it was jumpered to use less RAM.

I was shocked to find the same problem occurring with my old/new Amitek Hawk board! I’ve since cleaned the contacts on both sides of the board using wet wipes, but this hasn’t solved the problem. I’ve got some WD-40, so perhaps I should try that. I’ve also got some IPA.

Unfortunately, I haven’t got an installed and working Gotek drive or floppy drive at this moment, otherwise I could run the Amitek Hawk test software. The video about my new internal Gotek installation says I need posts and screws from my floppy drive to support it, but I no longer have the floppy drive. I may have to mount the internal style Gotek externally in a cardboard box temporarily.

Here are some pics of my A1200 trapdoor edge connector, but from one side only. I can’t get a pic from the other side without removing the board from the external connectors, but I haven’t got the skill to do that. Looking at the full resolution pics, the contacts on the section which has fewer contacts looks dirty, although I've cleaned it. Can anyone see any damage? I noticed that not all the contacts are the same length. The same problem has occurred with the card not pushed all the way in, as well as fully pushed in. Perhaps if I managed to push it in up to a certain point, it may work. I hope someone can tell me how to solve this problem.





     
 

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Re: A1200 trapdoor edge connector problem
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2024, 10:56:10 AM »
I’ve since cleaned the contacts on both sides of the board using wet wipes, but this hasn’t solved the problem. I’ve got some WD-40, so perhaps I should try that. I’ve also got some IPA.

Well i would not have done this. Wet wipes have chemicals in them (plus they are water based), which could make it tacky / sticky to the touch. Could make things worse.
Use a pencil rubber, then IPA it to make it nice and clean. What your describing, does sound exactly like dirty contacts. IPA is best for electronics, as its chemical make up, means you dont have to worry if it hasnt dried before turning on.
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Re: A1200 trapdoor edge connector problem
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2024, 01:06:37 AM »
Totally agree with  FOLLETT on this. Please watch YouTube videos from SHG retro and Chris Edwards on repairs. Ideally you should use a Contact Cleaner like a WD40 contact cleaner (NOT actual WD40 for squeaky hinges) and or something like deoxit.

Dude you are seriously dangerous with your electronics.
 

Offline AmigaBrunoTopic starter

Re: A1200 trapdoor edge connector problem
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2024, 03:20:33 AM »
It's been several hours since I last checked in here. There were no replies last time I looked. I decided to clean the contacts on both sides with IPA on two sheets of kitchen paper, one after the other. After this, I found out that my Amigakit 8Mb card was suddenly able to make use of all its RAM for the first time in 2-3 months! I was testing it with various software for hours.

Next, I tried my Amitek Hawk card, which is also 8Mb. I found I could never get my A1200 to finish booting up with this card. The display went black and my Amiga stopped reading the CF card. The Amigakit card is too wide to fit the slot easily, but it now seems that the Amitek Hawk card is even more difficult. I had to try and plug in each card from inside the A1200, not through the trapdoor slot. The Amitek Hawk board came up against a plastic lip, which I've heard some people cut off to make boards fit. Since I last tried it with my A1200 I've lost a screw from the motherboard, which may make things more difficult.