How to run game glSokoban 3D in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition? In Emulator WinUAE.

[Sugo77]

How to run game glSokoban 3D in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition? In Emulator WinUAE
Or in AmigaOS 3.9, but better in Amiga OS 4.1 Final Edition(Update 1), if possible?...

Hello all!
Help me please run  glSokoban3D in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition...

I lost almost one week with try just by myslef for run this game, but fail... I downloaded and tested almost ~20+- -+ files, driver, programms from aminet for run this game, but still fail... I stucked just by myself...
Need just for tests, and for understand, this possible or no?(For i can continue going Amiga exploring...)

If can someone learn this problem in your free time, i can even give all files and links with all required files... I just not pro on this all and maybe do something wrong...

Game and files:

Here is all required for run this game...
Requires:   WarpOS,Warp3D,CyberGFX
https://i.ibb.co/m6h0RZ1/GLsokoban-Requirements-1-28-0202-2024.png

1.: Game GLsokoban.lha
https://aminet.net/package/game/think/GLsokoban

2.: Warp3D-4.0.lha - this 3d Driver\Program\tilite also have this Demo Game in 3D inside...
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Warp3D-4.0

3.: CyberGraphX3.lha - i was try dowloaded, installed and tested this, but this not helep me, this driver-program have million different options, but i not pro in it, and even sometimes emulator was stuck\freez, for example in AmigaOS 3.9(In AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 1 without freez, but anyway game not working)... Maybe because i do sething wrong, or this program not must be installeing in AmigaOS 3.9 first, for example maybe first musbe installed othe rprograms\drivers for 3D, not sure or this just for me only this...
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/CyberGraphX3

4.: CyberGraphX_4.3rc4.lha
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/CyberGraphX_4.3rc4

5.: MiniGL_OS4.lha
https://aminet.net/package/dev/c/MiniGL_OS4

6.: Wazp3D.lha - this video driver\program i installed sucesfully just by myslef, and tested also sucesfully(In AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 1), but this not helped with run game glSokoban 3D...
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Wazp3D
This helped only with run for example Emulator And VideoGames In 3D\2D From Console Sony PlayStation One: FPSE(Free PlayStation Emulator), and for example Demo Program Cow3D:
Cow3D.lha
https://aminet.net/package/dev/src/Cow3D

My own working method how to  run Sony PlayStation One: FPSE(Free PlayStation Emulator)in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition(Update 1)(Becse guide\instructions in file, not working for mr, just found solve by myslef and by own tests...):
What Was Need To Do...
1.: Downloading Wazp3D.lha
2.: Put Wazp3D-Prefs-Os4 and Wazp3D-Prefs To Sys:Prefs
3.: Rename File Warp3D.library To Warp3D.library-save
4.: Put Wazp3D.library-os4 To Sys:Libs And Rename File Wazp3D.library-os4 To Warp3D.library
driver/video/Wazp3D.lha
http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Wazp3D

7.: QuarkTex.zip
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/QuarkTex

8.: StormMesa2010.lha
https://aminet.net/package/util/libs/StormMesa2010

9.: WarpUP_V40.lha
https://aminet.net/package/misc/os/WarpUP_V40

P.S.:
In instructions of game glSokoban 3D also said,w hat game better run from Amiga Shell, but i not sure which command for it?

Help me please if someone will e have luck for run this game in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition or in AmigaOS 3.9?(In emulator winuae... lso about this... I even not sure, which need do settings and boards in RTG and in expansions. i use Picasso 4 and UAE Zorro 3  by many video lessons "How to run AmigaOS 4.1 Final edition and AmigaOS 3.9, with this all fine, and all working in this two OS!... Just stucck on run this 3D game, i do not ow why... Need help...)

P.S.2.0.:
I just see what this possible by posts and images by other guys, for example here(Post by darksun9210):
https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=74398.0
Also here:
https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=71405.0
or here(By pictures with game glSokoban 3D):
http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm

They said this working(I just not sure on real Amiga or in emulator winuae), i just still get "killer"(error) when try run this game even with many programs, files, driver which required for un this...
They said this is simple and must work, but i not pro in it, and maybe do something wrong...
Need your heelp guys...

[woof]

Hello

I am Alain Thellier Wazp3D's author

1) The sokoban that i used is not the same as you: mine come (I think) from an old waRp3D package and is intended to run on OS3/68k
Both dont seems to work on OS4, perhaps ReWarp may help as it seems to be a Warpos program
(I tried on my WinuAE/OS4 config and they didnt worked too despite that all 3D libs are correctly installed )

2) You also asked about Tales of Tamar 3D Map on Lemon Amiga
http://thellier.free.fr/TOT3D.htm
http://obligement.free.fr/articles/itwthellier.php

this project was never finished nor ported to OS4
So it was never available : so certainly this 3D Map exists only on my hard drive (coder) Arkadius Zielinski one (designer) and Martin Wolf one (Tamar creator)
Legal rights about this game add-on still are owned by Martin Wolf so only him can allow to release this map to the public

[Sugo77]

Thanks for answers!

In free time, i will be testing glSokoban 3D then and on AmigaOS 3.9...(If talk true, i was tried one time run glSokoban 3D in AmigaOS 3.9, but got fail and not remember correct eror, but thsi was something about "libraries")

And also maybe will be do some experements-tests and in on AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition with ReWarp(Now i have this)...
If talk true, when i not got answers on this forum, i also duplicated my question and to Redditt:
https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/1b2vzn0/how_to_run_glsokoban_in_amigaos_41_final_edition/

And one man, also saided about progrram ReWarp also about WarpOSEmu, Cybergraphics V3+   - this all i found for tests in free time...
But, he is also said about Warp3D v3, i have only WarpOS v4 files from aminet,  Warp3D v3 - even maybe and not need....(I not found Warp3D v3 in internet... I possible search and founds a lot and always try search in millions different sources with spending a lot of time on searchings and can spend on it even many hours, in other words i possible and know how to do deep searches in internet, but this file, with this version can't found, maybe this not exists, because newer version exists, not sure... But, sometimes if i not founds something when spending many hours, days, i just prefer to use other versions of the same products, below or above, if they exist...)

Now i have a lot additional files and iformation for new experements, tests and attemps for run this game glSokoban 3D...

Thanks you!

P.S.:
woof, if you or someone wants to add something to what I have already listed above, to programs, files, drivers, utilities, then you are always welcome...
In my free time, I’ll start testing with new files that I haven’t worked with yet and didn’t even know about their existence until I wrote this topic and asked for help and advice from experienced people or those who had already run this game or played it on Emulators or on real hardware...

Thanks for the answers, and if anyone else has anything to add, you're always welcome...

Updated:
Additional information...(Almost forgot said about this...)
About Tales of Tamar 3D Map i understand, also thanks for information, and no questions about this anymore...
Main target run glSokoban 3D in AmigaOS on emulators winuae... How i always talk, even not matter good game or no, this just need for tests and main solve problems with run of this app for understand how run this, for got some experience and knowdges how to got to run this, for understand some dependeds... This main reasons for me in work th AmigaOS apps, soft, etc...

[woof]

Please note that the Sokoban that I got and have reported to works inside WinUAE is NOT the same that the one you want to make run

Perhaps ReWarp can help for YOUR Sokoban but I never tested

On OS3 68k there is almost no difference between Warp3D V3 and V4 so better to use V4: I mean I never met a program that will not work due to using V4
*** Anyway as you are using emulation you dont need WaRp3D at all but only WaZp3D ***


OS4  programs use Warp3D V5 for ppc but old programs for classic Amigas (OS3 68k, WarpOS ppc)  use v4 : that may cause problems as v5 is not fully backward compatible with v4 ==> using Aminet/PatchWarp3D or ReWarp patch the missing functions so it correct this problem.

*** Anyway as you are using emulation you use WaZp3D for OS4 ppc  that dont have this problem at all ***

ReWarp is better as it allow also old WarpOS ppc programs to run on OS4 (ReWarp is based on PatchWarp3D sources)

*** As YOUR Sokoban seems to be a WarpOS program then you NEED also ReWarp on OS4 ***

[Sugo77]

woof, still fail, in AmigaOS 4.1
https://i.ibb.co/yQbV6L7/1.png this maybe because need run from Amiga Shell in AmigaOS 4.1?(But i not sure about which right and full command for run this game from Amiga Shell?)  This message from ile readme from archive Warp3D-4.0 with Demo Game glSokoban 3D which i download from this link:
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Warp3D-4.0
https://i.ibb.co/yQbV6L7/1.png - in message you dotn't pay attention to the colors and resolution, I experimented (Also unsuccessfully) with driver/video/CyberVision64_3D_install.lha
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/CyberVision64_3D_install

Even in AmigaOS 3.9 still asked about libraries, but i found, downloaded and test a lot archives\files with different PPC Libraries!...:
From your tips:
util/libs/ReWarp.lha - archive with PPC Libraries...
https://aminet.net/package/util/libs/ReWarp
From my own:
misc/os/ppc-user-09042000.lha - also with PPC libraries...:
https://aminet.net/package/misc/os/ppc-user-09042000
util/libs/WarpOSEmu.lha
https://aminet.net/package/util/libs/WarpOSEmu

But, in message with error, still asks about libraries, even in AmigaOS 3.9, very strange, i have PPC libraries...
https://i.ibb.co/K9yg1vz/2.png

P.S.:
Game GLsokoban 3D i was downloaded and tested and from this qrchive:
https://aminet.net/package/game/think/GLsokoban
And from this archive:
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Warp3D-4.0

But still fail run this game in two differenets AmigaOS, in AmigaOS 3.9 and in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 1 in emulators winuae 5.2.0 and in winuae 5.1.0...
Very strange...

Also i was try downloaded and tested about 10+- -+ other differents drivers, utilites, files for graphics etc, for try to run this, but again still fail in this two AmigaOS...
For example PatchWarp3D.lha
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/PatchWarp3D

I not tested today(02.03.2024) Wazp3D+PPC Libraries... Only Warp3D-4.0+PPC Libraries...(And +"million" different other files\drivers, etc, but stiill fail to run this game... In Any AmigaOS in emulators winuae, I not use other emulators)

P.S.2.0.:
If someone will be have luck with run this game glSokoban 3D in any of AmigaOS in emulators winuae, type please guide 1, 2, 3, how do you got your own luck with that...(Want to understand - the dependeds and reasons, how this work and what needs to this app\game work...)

Forgot to add, i have also installed this: AmigaOS 3.9+Picasso96-2_1.e+BoingBag39-1+BoingBag39-2+Euro-Update+ClassicWB_OS39_v28 on other HDD Image(I have differencopies of HDD Images for not lost stabile working copies), and was tested and on this, but also same fail results with run game glSokoban 3D...

[woof]

sokoban from this archive:
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Warp3D-4.0

is the only one that worked for me
this sokoban 68k run on winuae/os3.9 68k/ with Wazp3D for 68k there is nothing special about it : it dont need rewarp nor poverpc.library nor warpos stuffs

The other sokoban dont run on my winuae config: so I cant help :-/

[Sugo77]

woof, thanks you very mutch!

I installed, finally run this game(glSokoban 3D) and tested!(On AmigaOS 3.9) (After almost half of months(~one-two weekes +- -+) of my fail attemps...

Now will try to do same tests with some ther 3D games\Apps\Demos\Programs with this greater list ever! (And on AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition also...)
http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm

I happy(On this moment), heh...

Thanks...

This was my target run something in 3D on AmigaOS 3.9(Now done this target\task\mission or\and on AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition(Not done yet, but i hope also will be done, i downloaded very many for it...)

P.S.:
woof, other question, this demo game glSokoban 3D in AmigaOS 3.9 for you also going without any sound\music?

Updated:
Also, after spending some of additional time, successfully installed, run and tested Sokoban 2 3D(This version of Sokoban have sounds)...

[woof]

Your Beastie-Worker grab miss lighting

do
Wazp3D-Prefs
Texture:GL Coloring

[Sugo77]

woof, wow man thanks for answer and for this helpful information...(Good to know for tests...)

How special happens coincidence, and this true, i begin tested this game in AmigaOS 4.1 Final edition(Update 1) and on this moment got fail...
And i was want to asked about Beastie-Worker 3D, this ame can be run in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition?

I downloaded and tested much for this, but on this moment on this date 04.03.202 still fail...
It's said "Need at least version 48 of ixemul.library" or much more, i found this and rename, but this not helped, emulator just freez, when i try run this game by press on icon BeastieWorker...
I downloaded and tested versions from here:
https://aminet.net/package/util/libs/ixemul-48.0
Also thsi version from here:
https://aminet.net/package/util/libs/ixemul48.2-060
And from here:
https://aminet.net/package/dev/lib/ixemul-48.3-bin-m68k

I just not sure about which version need to put and rename... I worked-tested do experements with ixnet060.library, ixemul060-fpu.library in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition(Update 1), but emulator winuae 5.2.0 64-bit just to freezed in my case...

Also i was try put libs from StormMesa_Libs68K, StormMesa2010, StormMesa_Archive, but still fail... I not pro in it, just tester...

Btw, in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition, we are also must run 3D games from Amiga Shell?(I was try, but messages said something about "not exestible file" or something like this...)

P.S.:
Question about sound in glSokoban 3D for you are also not working or this demo game just not have sounds\music?

P.S.2.0.:
For someone, for whom also will be interesteing how to run game glSokoban 3D in AmigaOS 3.9:
1: Downloading Wazp3D.lha
2.: Put Wazp3D-Prefs To Sys:Prefs
3.: Put soft3d.library To Sys:Libs
4.: Put soft3d.dll To Emulator WinUAE Root Folder
5.: Put Wazp3D.library-winuae To Sys:Libs And Rename File Wazp3D.library-winuae To Warp3D.library
6.: This Game Need Run From Amiga Shell By Command: glSokoban68k-Enter(For Run This Game from Amiga Shell, Need Just Press Button Enter On PC keyboard)

Pre first run\start this game, it asked something about can't run or can'tfound soft3d.dll in yourWinUAE, but i just ignore this problem, i have installed this files from archive Wazp3D...(And on second run and other runs of this game this message not showed anymore and all works fine anyway in AmigaOS 3.9 and this game also works fine)

Updated later..:
P.S.3.0.:
In free time want try to do big experements with RTG Board\Graphics Board voodoo3 in emulators winuae by this big tutorial...(For try to run games glSokoban 3D and  BeastieWorker):
https://www.amigafrance.com/utilisation-dune-carte-voodoo3-pci-avec-un-mediator/ - tutorial from France.
Plus from this tutorial:
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2021-12-00063-EN.html - Germany+England.

There is seems possible... And plus from other site, but not will be linked to here...(For own reasons...)

On this moment i use 2 RTG Board\Graphics Boards Picasso IV and UAE Zorro III(\UAEGFX) on my Different Virual HDD Images( .VHD , SFS-02 ) with installed AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 1, on my emulators winuae by this also big tutorials\lessons:
1.: https://www.amigaportal.cz/node/158104 - Czech
2.: https://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/os41uae/index.html - Germany
3.: http://www.pjhutchison.org/emulation/uae_install_wb41FE.html - America(English)

But...
Never not was doing experements(For 3D Apps\3D VideoGames) with RTG Board\Graphics Boards Voodoo!...
Will be do in free time...(Very interesting will see results...)


Updated later...
Also i was try testing this 3D game in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition: Tiltnrolldemo
http://os4depot.net/?function=showfile&file=game/misc/tiltnrolldemo.lha

But got error amiga failed to create minigl context, strange, you are not know how solve this? SDL i have installed, MiniGL also, plus i was downloaded, installed and tested different versions but always fail...
I was found similar error on this page, but nothing helped from this page...
https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=63068.0
If i press on icon with game, then run just intro with authors and music, but gameplay no, i press for tests on all btoons on PC Keyboard, and was change different settings in input configuratons...

Sorry as so many questions to you, you can chose for give answers just some of them ofcourse, how you wish...

Added later:
Here is aslo one guy was have similar problem...
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=32&topic_id=41165&post_id=783881&viewmode=thread&order=0

[woof]

I cant help
Those games were made for OS3 68k so you need to run them on OS3 68k as most will never run on OS4 ppc

You can't run or can't found soft3d.dll in yourWinUAE

BUUUT you need soft3d.dll to obtain hardware acceleration
There is an option to check on in WinUAE like "enable native code" allow x86 calls" or something like that
also it soft3d.dll only works with winuae 32 bits not 64 bits

[Sugo77]

Those games were made for OS3 68k so you need to run them on OS3 68k as most will never run on OS4 ppc

You can't run or can't found soft3d.dll in yourWinUAE

BUUUT you need soft3d.dll to obtain hardware acceleration
There is an option to check on in WinUAE like "enable native code" allow x86 calls" or something like that
also it soft3d.dll only works with winuae 32 bits not 64 bits

Good to know... Thanks.
But, man, yesterday 04.03.2024, very late, right before going to bed, I still managed to launch one game from the list so far, on AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition although with great difficulty, using this method:
1.: Downloading Wazp3D.lha
2.: Put Wazp3D-Prefs-Os4 and Wazp3D-Prefs To Sys:Prefs
3.: Rename File Warp3D.library To Warp3D.library-save
4.: Put Wazp3D.library-os4 To Sys:Libs And Rename File Wazp3D.library-os4 To Warp3D.library

But, how i understand by readed on different forum from different users, i don't remember exactly which forums, but i remember what users tolded about Wazp3D - this can emulated 3D Graphics - before runing game yet, so possible runs some games how on emulators, if not will be to working default Warp3D...
So, how i understand there is 50 on 50 on chance for run some 3D games\3D Demos even on AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition!...
I will be continue testing... I downloaded "millions" 3D VideoGames for tests...(I very love different tests with apps\videogames\soft, etc... My hobby... Plus it’s interesting to overcome difficulties... When brains is involved... I like to think, reflect, test... )

P.S.:
But, for me 3D Videogames worked slowly in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition on this moment on my Videocards\RTG Boards\Graphics Boards: Picasso IV and UAE Zorro III(\UAEGFX), so i also readed on forums than on graphic board voodoo 3 3000 (3dfx) maybe will be working faster for 3D Games\Apps, so i also will be testing and this in free time...(I downloaded all required bios files, drivers, etc and prepared for begin testing this...)
Also i finally already got Update 2 for AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition... There are so many tests to future...

[woof]

If you use WinUAE 32 bits /OS3  68k then you can use hardware rendering via x86 calls  via the soft3D.dll
Having Wazp3D use hardware rendering is a game changer : waaays faster and nicer

So there is really no reason to run a 68k games/demos in OS4/WinUAE as Wazp3D is software only inside this WinUAE ppc (= only sloowww)

[Sugo77]

New news after time and after a lot of additional tests and experement with different soft on different AmigaOS's in last versions on our days**(2024)** of Emulator WinUAE... If you are use emulated videocard Voodoo 3 + Mediator and magical utilitie MM_CD_UP2.6, and after right settings in MedConfig + doing right settings in Emulator WinUAE, then you are even not need installing and use not ReWarp, not WarpOSEmu, not PatchWarp3D, and even not Wazp3D for 3D Videogames in different AmigaOS's - Demo 3D VideoGames or Full - not matter... And main... 3D Videogames work perfect and almost without any lags on our days, if doing, installing, and sets in setting(In utilites, programs, and in emulstors) all of right...
This Magical and Amazing!

P.S.:
Just need last versions of Default Warp3D+Emulated Videocard Voodoo 3 3000+Mediator+MM_CD_UP2.6+MedConfig, main what need to do, this is all of right to set in this programs, utilities and ofcourse in Emulators WinUAE(Better in latest verions...)