Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Ask Fleecy locked?  (Read 5936 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Step

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 202
    • Show only replies by Step
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2004, 07:06:27 PM »
Its a module access problem according to a mod at AW.net and will be fixed. Oops, did i spoil the fun :-)

.................................
 :sealed: Think, before :ranting:
 

Offline alx

Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2004, 07:09:18 PM »
@Warface

IMHO suggesting that an experiened webmaster thinks that blocking permissions to a module makes the content inaccessible to a court is bordering on the absurd.  Even though I appriciate a good conspiracy theory :-P

For those of you who don't frequent AW.net DaveyD's just said the following:

Quote
Sorry guys, we're having problems with the site's module access permissions. we will fix them asap


I realise that 50% of you won't believe that, but it definitely suggests that they will be restored - ie this is a load of fuss about nothing much.

Offline Morley

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Mar 2004
  • Posts: 333
    • Show only replies by Morley
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2004, 07:10:29 PM »
@step

Oooooh...

Nice timing, AW.net.
Doesn't exactly sound convincing, as all other modules work.
Lame signature removed by moderator.
 

Offline KennyR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 8081
    • Show only replies by KennyR
    • http://wrongpla.net
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2004, 07:14:58 PM »
Quote
alx wrote:
I realise that 50% of you won't believe that, but it definitely suggests that they will be restored - ie this is a load of fuss about nothing much.


If the Ask Fleecy are made readable again very soon then they'll be vindicated and it'll be the end of the matter. But you've got to admit the timing is auspicious.
 

Offline Paul_Gadd

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2002
  • Posts: 1271
    • Show only replies by Paul_Gadd
    • http://elunatic.host.sk/start.html
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2004, 07:15:51 PM »
Admins locking parts of the site and quickly editing the Q&As to protect Moss would not surprise me one bit.

You knew what was going on but still mislead your members, what sort of poxy two bit admin are you? corrupt b@stard.
 

Offline redrumloaTopic starter

  • Original Omega User
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 10126
    • Show only replies by redrumloa
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2004, 07:28:44 PM »
Quote
I realise that 50% of you won't believe that, but it definitely suggests that they will be restored - ie this is a load of fuss about nothing much.


-edit removed by me-

Anything is possible.

Anyone have those missing sessions for me?
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

Offline KennyR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 8081
    • Show only replies by KennyR
    • http://wrongpla.net
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2004, 09:00:54 PM »
And now I'm hearing that posts on the subject are being deleted from AW all over the place. Someone care to explain?
 

Offline Hooligan_DCS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2002
  • Posts: 522
    • Show only replies by Hooligan_DCS
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2004, 09:40:10 PM »
>I realise that 50% of you won't believe that, but it definitely suggests that they will be restored

Naah.. this should have been done a long long time ago :lol:
 

Offline Methuselas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 2205
    • Show only replies by Methuselas
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2004, 10:50:43 PM »
You know, out of ALL the conspiracy theories I have read over the years, THIS one is, by FAR, the best.  :lol:


My only thing is, I'm glad that someone ELSE is in charge of the OS, instead of McEwen. Not that I hate the guy or anything, but he's done absolutely nothing in support of the Amiga OS, save a few 'executive updates', since the inception of Amiga, Inc. He's and his tribe have done nothing in support of it, save offering 'licenses' to people like Eyetech and Hyperion. Sadly, those are the few that actually care about the Amiga community, save the community itself. All he has done was split the community into three, warring parties.You've got the reds on one side, the blues on another and the people like me, who are grey, having chosen neither side, caught up in the middle.

We live in a world, where is is completely acceptable to mislead and lie to the masses. McEwen does it, Rumsfeld does it, Bush does it, Blair does it. So why are you so upset that Amiga Inc did it, when a majority of us knew or suspected it from the beginning. I'm still not sure why they bought Amiga in the first place. I mean, our OS has nothing at ALL to do with their DE operations, except in A) a name, and B)the promise of the DE being integrated into the OS, which was pruported as false in the court depostitions of Amiga Inc.


Honestly, Amiga Inc is in a world of sh!t. McEwen has commited purjury, documents have been falsified, people have been ripped off. (Note, my choice of words are quite my own opinion, but tell that to the thousand or so people that gave up 50$ for a T-Shirt and coupon never recieved.)I could defend either Buck or McEwen for this, but I won't, just as I didn't defend Dr. Ryan Merlancia for his atrocious, criminal acts. The open fact remains that I WANT a PPC Amiga OS, for which I will gladly spend a grand on a new, proprietary motherboard and 'standard' parts. Is this not what we did, when Commodore was still around??!? What I won't do, however, is support a company that would blatantly disregard the community that's holding them together by a single thread, nor will I support a company that would openly mislead courts into thinking they aren't a viable, commercial company by selling the ONLY intellectual property they have to an unknown, paper company.

KMOS is more than likely, a red herring. This was probably done, in the hopes that it will prevent Thendic or anyone else, for that matter, in collecting the only IP Amiga, Inc has that is commercially viable. No one gives a damn about AmigaDE, 'cos Amiga's had PLENTY of time to get it to the market, but chose not to. Instead, they beat around the bush, took their time and gambled away the only market they had with a poor, poker face and a pair of two's. If you think I am wrong, explain to me why there was only ONE SDK released by Amiga Inc and that was almost 4 years ago??

I've said this before and I'll say it again: why are you all so suprised?? It's not like we didn't see it coming. We knew the risks and accepted them openly, just as we did when Escom, Viscorp and Gateway purchased the Amiga IP. Everytime, the company fell flat (with the exception of Gateway, but they got rid of the IP as soon as they could.) and by failing, it opened up a theory that the Amiga is 'cursed.' Yes, cursed by being purchased by companies with the same, ethical mentalities of Commodore, but not from it's own volition. If a company that HAD amiga roots and LOVED the amiga for what it was purchased it, we wouldn't be where we are today. That DIDN'T happen, however, so get over it already.


Amiga is doing just about everything they can to stay afloat, up to and including, criminal activities. It's not suprising. If you worked at a company, for which your livelihood is centered upon, that was failing, would you NOT do everything in your power to keep it aloft and afloat? I could go on and on about this, over and over again, but it won't make a bit of difference. Sadly, the number of Amigans has fallen to maybe a few thousand and those have been shredded by two men, who are fighting tremendously over a market that sadly, isn't worth the effort.

Still, I'll support Eyetech and Hyperion. They deserve it. I don't know if I'll buy an AmigaOne anymore, but I will actively and openly support them. As for Amiga, Inc. and Thendic, all they have done is pushed people to migrate (finally) to other platforms. Kudos to them, for destroying one of the few things I loved about computers. Let them fight like vultures over a diseased carcass. Typical.

Cheers!


-M


PS- Hey, Lempkee, sorry about your Miggy, Mate. Hope you get a new PPC soon. :-?
\'Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation.\' - Bruce Lee

\'No, sorry. I don\'t get my tits out. They\'re not actually real, you know? Just two halves of a grapefruit...\' - Miki Berenyi

\'Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.\' - Dark Helmet :roflmao:

\'And for future reference, it might be polite to ask someone if you can  quote them in your signature, rather than just citing them to make a  sales pitch.\' - Karlos. :rtf
 

  • Guest
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2004, 10:54:56 PM »
Quote
My only thing is, I'm glad that someone ELSE is in charge of the OS, instead of McEwen.
Small point of fact please:  We don't know if McEwen is involved in AmigaOS (via KMOS) or not.  Until we know who -- or what --KMOS is (we may never know).

Thanks for listening,

Wayne
 

Offline Methuselas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 2205
    • Show only replies by Methuselas
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2004, 10:59:42 PM »
Quote

Wayne wrote:
Quote
My only thing is, I'm glad that someone ELSE is in charge of the OS, instead of McEwen.
Small point of fact please:  We don't know if McEwen is involved in AmigaOS (via KMOS) or not.  Until we know who -- or what --KMOS is (we may never know).

Thanks for listening,

Wayne


Wayne, my point in that wasn't directed towards McEwen, so much as it was at Amiga, Inc. McEwen, however, IS the figurehead of Amiga, Inc and he DOES have a reputation of sorts to uphold as that said figurehead. I'm sorry, but releasing a news update about selling the OS a year AFTER it happened, ISN'T good business practice, nor is setting release dates that you cannot fulfill over and over again. That's the last attempt at freedom by a man hanging by a noose around his neck.

-M
\'Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation.\' - Bruce Lee

\'No, sorry. I don\'t get my tits out. They\'re not actually real, you know? Just two halves of a grapefruit...\' - Miki Berenyi

\'Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.\' - Dark Helmet :roflmao:

\'And for future reference, it might be polite to ask someone if you can  quote them in your signature, rather than just citing them to make a  sales pitch.\' - Karlos. :rtf
 

  • Guest
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2004, 11:08:05 PM »
I understand your points, and can't disagree.  I was only pointing out that, for all we know at this point, KMOS is Garry, Bill, and Fleecy Inc.

I'm not drawing any conclusions, and it's far too early to tell the impact that this belated "release" will have.  I will say that it's VERY curious timing to me that they "release" this information at this point in the trial situation.  

We all know, and most of us will admit that McEwen and Moss were the root of the problems with Amiga Inc.  We simply don't know at this point if this move has been anything more than a shell game to avoid the loss of AmigaOS IP in a bankruptcy.  It sounds very much to me as though Ben Hermans has known about it well before last year's Amiwest with his assertions that "even if Amiga Inc dies, OS4 is secure".

Wayne
 

Offline T_Bone

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2002
  • Posts: 5124
    • Show only replies by T_Bone
    • http://www.amiga.org/userinfo.php?uid=1961
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2004, 01:19:11 AM »
Quote

KennyR wrote:
And now I'm hearing that posts on the subject are being deleted from AW all over the place. Someone care to explain?


 :lol:

Does that really need explaining?
this space for rent
 

Offline Tomas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 2828
    • Show only replies by Tomas
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2004, 02:52:53 AM »
Quote

KennyR wrote:
And now I'm hearing that posts on the subject are being deleted from AW all over the place. Someone care to explain?

Now you are talking just bullshit.. Do a search in the forums, and then you will discover that the threads are still there..
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2002
  • Posts: 2990
    • Show only replies by takemehomegrandma
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2004, 08:39:38 AM »
And the posts *indide* the threads are untouched?
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline bloodline

  • Master Sock Abuser
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 12113
    • Show only replies by bloodline
    • http://www.troubled-mind.com
Re: Ask Fleecy locked?
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 17, 2004, 02:51:26 PM »
Quote

Step wrote:
Its a module access problem according to a mod at AW.net and will be fixed. Oops, did i spoil the fun :-)



Still locked...