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Offline pVC

MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« on: October 13, 2020, 07:15:14 PM »
The MorphOS development team is proud to announce the immediate availability of MorphOS 3.14. While mostly a maintenance and stability release, this update also brings multiple technological improvements in the kernel. Out of these, the most notable are TLS support in exec.library, updates to the Netstack and ixemul.library.
Wayfarer, a new web browser based on a modern mid-2020 branch of WebKit is now available for download from wayfarer.icu. This new app makes it possible to browse most of the web that have become off-limits for Odyssey with its ageing engine. Google apps like Docs, Drive and Maps with Street view are supported just as the Whatsapp or Telegram web interfaces.
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Offline Matt_H

Re: MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2020, 04:52:30 AM »
Exec-level TLS support is a fascinating and unexpected development. Curious to see what that will open up in the future.

Speaking of curiosity, was there a reason Odyssey couldn't be updated with a newer WebKit? I would have thought that would be easier than building a new browser from scratch. Or is Wayfarer basically the same as Odyssey with a new name and engine? Honest questions - not trying to be provocative. :)

I'm not near my MorphOS machine at the moment, but I'm looking forward to trying this out when I am. Thanks as always!
« Last Edit: October 14, 2020, 04:53:10 AM by Matt_H »
 

Offline kolla

Re: MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2020, 02:27:50 AM »
TLS in this context is threading library support, I presume, and not transport layer security, which most users would think of when they see TLS :)
« Last Edit: October 16, 2020, 09:13:15 AM by kolla »
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Offline SamuraiCrow

Re: MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2020, 05:59:17 AM »
Close, it's thread local storage.  8)
 

Offline pVC

Re: MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2020, 11:02:38 AM »
Speaking of curiosity, was there a reason Odyssey couldn't be updated with a newer WebKit? I would have thought that would be easier than building a new browser from scratch. Or is Wayfarer basically the same as Odyssey with a new name and engine? Honest questions - not trying to be provocative. :)
I don't know technical details that well, but yes, Odyssey was a dead-end for newer WebKits and AFAIK it wasn't reasonable to try to update it even with all these improvements in the OS, which made it possible to port a newer WebKit in the first place.

There's nothing from the old browsers in Wayfarer and it's been completely written from scratch. Support added to the OS and browser written in ObjectiveC from scratch makes it easier to keep updated in the future too.

BTW. Wayfarer has already updated to version 1.2 now, see the change log here.
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Offline Matt_H

Re: MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2020, 08:00:18 PM »
Close, it's thread local storage.  8)

Ah yes, yes, thread local storage. Good ol' thread local storage... I, uh, have no idea what that means. :) But I suppose my point stands: will be interesting to see what possibilities this opens up in the future.

I don't know technical details that well, but yes, Odyssey was a dead-end for newer WebKits and AFAIK it wasn't reasonable to try to update it even with all these improvements in the OS, which made it possible to port a newer WebKit in the first place.

There's nothing from the old browsers in Wayfarer and it's been completely written from scratch. Support added to the OS and browser written in ObjectiveC from scratch makes it easier to keep updated in the future too.

BTW. Wayfarer has already updated to version 1.2 now, see the change log here.
Interesting. I had been wondering why development on OWB seemed to have stalled. I guess this project explains it. I look forward to trying it out!
« Last Edit: October 18, 2020, 08:01:27 PM by Matt_H »
 

Offline nbache

Re: MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2020, 08:19:52 PM »
Ah yes, yes, thread local storage. Good ol' thread local storage... I, uh, have no idea what that means. :)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread-local_storage

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Offline kolla

Re: MorphOS 3.14 and a new web browser released
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 09:23:25 AM »
I just remember when TLS was added to gcc and glibc on Linux/68k around 7-8 years ago, it was a commercial endavour :)
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