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Offline Hiddenevil

Wing Commander
« on: August 20, 2020, 11:57:25 PM »

Just installed WC on my A500+, which is running a 68EC020 TK 25Mhz. For a card that pulls 5.35MIPS, I was a little surprised by the performance, music slowing and speeding up depending on what was happenig on screen. Note i installed the game using the WC hard disk installer and not WHDload. Though I wonder if WHDload would make a difference.

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Wing Commander
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2020, 05:35:59 AM »
Bad port.  Just noticed on Wikipedia that a 256 color CD32 version was released a year after the original Amiga port.  Wonder if that is any better?
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Offline TribbleSmasher

Re: Wing Commander
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2020, 05:40:07 AM »
The WHDLoad install includes some fixes and optimizations, but mostly for the AGA/CD32 version, which can be heavily improved if you have a beefy CPU.
http://whdload.de/games/WingCommander.html
A 25MHz 020 will not cut it, i'm afraid. It is a demanding game. But you can try?

Offline kolla

Re: Wing Commander
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2020, 02:42:17 PM »
With a fast 060/AGA system, this game becomes really tricky... hehe :)
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Offline Hiddenevil

Re: Wing Commander
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2020, 10:01:19 PM »
Might look at sticking an 030 in my A500, I've seen one what does 11MIPS
 

Offline BozzerBigD

Re: Wing Commander
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2020, 10:06:23 PM »
@Oldsmobile_Mike 
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Bad port.  Just noticed on Wikipedia that a 256 color CD32 version was released a year after the original Amiga port.  Wonder if that is any better?

Yes, the 256 colour version is A LOT better especially with the WHDLoad optimisation with at least a 030/50 processor. The A500 version runs at a playable speed on an A1200. The A500 should NEVER have been a porting candidate for this game and people who wanted Wing Commander and Doom should have upgraded their Amigas not expected decent performance from these demanding PC game ports on a A500!
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Offline blakespot

Re: Wing Commander
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2020, 12:26:16 AM »
@Oldsmobile_Mike 
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Bad port.  Just noticed on Wikipedia that a 256 color CD32 version was released a year after the original Amiga port.  Wonder if that is any better?

Yes, the 256 colour version is A LOT better especially with the WHDLoad optimisation with at least a 030/50 processor. ...

Had to jump in. Annoyingly, WHDLoad sometimes runs games on accelerated machines slower than when loaded from floppy. I noticed this with ZeeWolf 2 on my A2000 ‘020. Have a look at the comparison vid: https://youtu.be/gXs0AX9LlEI

So now I try both versions of everything I want to play, that I used to run from WHDLoad always.

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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: Wing Commander
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2020, 10:59:03 PM »
@blakespot

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So now I try both versions of everything I want to play, that I used to run from WHDLoad always.

Well in the case of the CD32 version of Wing Commander it's a patch as much as a hard drive installer. The CD32 Akiko chip was used as a Planar to Chunky accelerator but the game had a small but significant error in the software code (a bit like Aliens: Colonial Marines A.I. code) and hence ran like a dog. The error was found and the game was patched to run well with accelerator instead of the Akiko. Hence, the WHDLoad version is the definitive version of this game!  8)
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