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Offline Jamesplease

600 vs 1200
« on: November 22, 2019, 01:12:49 AM »
Can anyone elaborate to me the difference between an a600 and an a1200 (apart from the keyboard.)

Is an a600 as expandable?
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2019, 03:04:48 AM »
Yup! An Amiga 600 is the same as an Amiga 500 except it has has an IDE interface.

An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K machines!
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Offline Matt_H

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2019, 05:46:10 AM »
To add a little more detail, the 600 is an ECS machine with a plain 68000 chip. The 1200 is an AGA machine with a 68020. A stock 600 comes with 1MB or RAM, the 1200 comes with 2MB.

Historically the 1200 was considered easier to expand since it has a dedicated accelerator slot. Accelerators for the 600 need to clip on top of the 68000 chip, which is a bit trickier, and there aren’t as many options for them although some clever ones have been made more recently.

I think the 1200 is the better all around machine, but the 600 can be solid when properly expanded and its small size is just so darn cute.
 
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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2019, 08:50:45 AM »
@giZmo350

No the A4000 came first with AGA and technically the A3000+ was the test bed for the AGA chipset with DSP thrown in! I'd say the A3000+ was the mother that Ripley style C= fragged with a flame thrower and then nuked from orbit!

Ahh C= you never made sense!  :o
"Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art."

John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios
 
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Offline paul1981

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2019, 08:34:15 PM »
Can anyone elaborate to me the difference between an a600 and an a1200 (apart from the keyboard.)

Is an a600 as expandable?

The A1200 positive points:
As standard, the A1200 feels about 4 times faster than the 600 and has double the amount of ChipRAM. The A1200 has a clockport and a CPU slot; you can easily expand with Fast RAM and FPU and also a faster CPU if required. A1200 has AGA graphics which is a very nice upgrade over the A600 ECS graphics capability. With AGA you can have photo-realistic graphics (it has a 24 bit palette). You can have 256 colour screens in any resolution, and a special HAM8 mode for a quarter of a million on-screen colours (in any resolution). The A600 is virtually the same as the A1000 from 1985... 32 or 64 colours in  'Lores' modes and only 16 colours in 'Hires' modes, with a 12 bit colour palette. HAM on the A600/A1000 is 4096 colours (Lores modes only). So the A1200 crushes the A600 regarding graphics capability.

The A600 positive points:
It's cute, it takes up less desk space.

Regarding expansion, the A600 can be expanded beyond the capabilities of a standard 1200 nowadays, but I don't believe an A600 can be expanded with PCI or Zorro slots like the A1200 can (via its CPU slot).
Do you want to go for cute or do you prefer the looks of the A1200?
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2019, 09:44:24 PM »
Oooops.... I meant to add the "wedge".    ::)
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Offline giZmo350

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2019, 10:48:46 PM »
Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word"....    :(

So, should be......   Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge".    ::)

What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post....   weird.
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

Surfing The Web With An AMIGA Is Fun Again!
 

Offline Jamesplease

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2019, 01:17:10 PM »
I have an1200 but both the capacitors and the 44 pin ide mount need replacing. I was wondering whether I should buy a 1200 that's exactly what I want or slowly learn how to fix it. When I looked at the prices the 600's are so much cheaper but I think I'll stick with a 1200.
 

Offline paul1981

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2019, 07:51:50 PM »
Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word"....    :(

So, should be......   Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge".    ::)

What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post....   weird.

Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2019, 08:08:06 PM »
Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word"....    :(

So, should be......   Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge".    ::)

What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post....   weird.

Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!

hahaha.... In my first post I meant to say....   An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K wedge machines!   ;)

after logging in...  I still can't "edit' or "modify" any of my previous posts....   think I should start a new post for that? Anyone else NOT being able to edit previous posts?  Odd.....
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

Surfing The Web With An AMIGA Is Fun Again!
 

Offline paul1981

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2019, 08:20:07 PM »
Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word"....    :(

So, should be......   Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge".    ::)

What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post....   weird.

Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!

hahaha.... In my first post I meant to say....   An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K wedge machines!   ;)

after logging in...  I still can't "edit' or "modify" any of my previous posts....   think I should start a new post for that? Anyone else NOT being able to edit previous posts?  Odd.....

You missed off the wedge and BozzerBigD swooped in to correct you with his A4000 comment!  ;D

If I have trouble with posts, I log out and then clear caches and cookies and history and then log in again.
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2019, 08:31:26 PM »
Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word"....    :(

So, should be......   Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge".    ::)

What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post....   weird.

Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!

hahaha.... In my first post I meant to say....   An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K wedge machines!   ;)

after logging in...  I still can't "edit' or "modify" any of my previous posts....   think I should start a new post for that? Anyone else NOT being able to edit previous posts?  Odd.....

You missed off the wedge and BozzerBigD swooped in to correct you with his A4000 comment!  ;D

Exactly!  LOL

If I have trouble with posts, I log out and then clear caches and cookies and history and then log in again.

If I clear caches and cookies in Safari, it really horks my logins where I use "remember me" with certain websites. Clearing history doesn't help with this A.O. problem. The troubles might be a Safari thing.  Love my Macs but I really hate Safari. I've only had this particular i7 Mac Mini for a short while and need to get Fire Fox installed!

Geez! This website is acting weird the last couple of days. Quoting posts don't even seem to be working correctly.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2019, 08:34:47 PM by giZmo350 »
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

Surfing The Web With An AMIGA Is Fun Again!
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2019, 08:38:16 PM »
Edited my last post just now without logging out. I can now NOT modify even the last post after that "modify".   :o
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

Surfing The Web With An AMIGA Is Fun Again!
 

Offline paul1981

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2019, 08:39:35 PM »
I never use 'remember me' functions. I use the PW manager instead.
 

Offline paul1981

Re: 600 vs 1200
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2019, 08:40:57 PM »
Edited my last post just now without logging out. I can now NOT modify even the last post after that "modify".   :o

I suggest a re-partition, re-format and re-installation of your OS.   ;D