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Network help needed!
« on: March 13, 2004, 10:22:50 AM »
Hi,

I have the AmigaOne and my laptop PC connected together with a UTP cross-cable. On the laptop I have dail-up. I use a proxy program so that the AmigaOne can be online also.

New situation. I got a iPAQ which I want to use on internet through the dailup laptop. iPAQ has wireless LAN build in. Do I need a wireless router? I saw a wireless HUB with one UTP connection. So I thought I plug the laptop in there and then the iPAQ can be online. That leaves the AmigaOne out but that is ok. I still can put the cross-cable back when I want the A1 online.

Anyone can help me out here? Since I am still in the mall I can arrange it right now.

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2004, 10:51:06 AM »
Having a wireless router will allow any wireless eneabled device to connect to the internet. You may want to simply get a wireless hub, and then have your laptop connect to the internet and use it as a gateway. You may want to get a combination, or get a hub which has wireless access, AND wired access...
 

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2004, 11:01:49 AM »
Hi sir_inferno,

So a "cheap" wireless hub with only 1 UTP connection would allow me to have the iPAQ online? That means through the laptop/winproxy/dail-up.

I got an offer for this:

http://www.insnotebook.nl/netwerk/zie.asp?art=BAS52273

But for a bit more then that. Good one?

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2004, 11:19:43 AM »
that seems a good price yes (btw UTP = RJ45 right?)

let me explain your options...

You could have:

You Laptop connecting to the internet (dialup)
Your Laptop connected to the network (cable or wireless)
iPaq connected to the network (wireless)
Amiga connected to network (wireless or cable) OR Amiga connected to laptop (cable)

And since everything is connected to the network or the laptop, they would share the laptops internet connection.

Or you could have:

Wireless router connected to internet (dialup)
Laptop connected to router (wireless)
iPaq connected to router (wireless)
Amiga connected to router (wireless) or Amiga connected to laptop (wired)

Everything has connection to the router, or in the second option for the amiga, the amiga has connection through the laptop.
 

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2004, 03:49:35 PM »
@sir_inferno

**UTP = RJ45 right? Yes that is correct.

I think I will go for a wireless router. Also for the future when I indeed have fast inet. So it would be a good investment. Also I want to make sure since sometimes I think I can do something (logical thinking) but then it cannot. And then I cannot return the device. No refund or something. Depends on the shop.

One more thing. Is it also possible to have the AmigaOne and laptop connected cross-cable and then buy an pcmcia wireless network card for the laptop. And then have the iPAQ come in on that. No idea if that is possible.

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2004, 08:04:55 PM »
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One more thing. Is it also possible to have the AmigaOne and laptop connected cross-cable and then buy an pcmcia wireless network card for the laptop. And then have the iPAQ come in on that. No idea if that is possible.

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[/me thinks of columbo  :-) ]

Three types of connection possible...
PCI board, PCMCIA card, and USB stick for both ethernet AND wired...

In answer to your question, No.

To connect two wireless devices you MUST have a router, and a method of receiving the "wireless stuff".

I.e. PCI, USB, or PCMCIA card receiver, or iPaq built in...

but yeah, i don't see why the amiga and laptop can't be connected by crossover...

(just if you want to add wireless to the amiga make sure you have drivers  :-( )
 

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2004, 08:16:18 PM »
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To connect two wireless devices you MUST have a router, and a method of receiving the "wireless stuff".


Ok, that's what I wanted to know. So 2 laptops or pc's with both a wireless network card could never "connect" with each other.

I think I will go for a wireless router, have the laptop and A1 connected to it by UTP cable and the iPAQ goes wireless.

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2004, 08:33:07 PM »
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To connect two wireless devices you MUST have a router, and a method of receiving the "wireless stuff".


Ok, that's what I wanted to know. So 2 laptops or pc's with both a wireless network card could never "connect" with each other.


Nope

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I think I will go for a wireless router, have the laptop and A1 connected to it by UTP cable and the iPAQ goes wireless.

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just wondering...it may be cheaper to get a wireless thingy for the laptop then to pay for that cable, never mind the advantages of having it wherever you are... and then you could just have the laptop and amiga connected via crossover... [or the amiga could be wireless too if there are drivers]
 

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2004, 08:44:38 PM »
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it may be cheaper to get a wireless thingy for the laptop then to pay for that cable


What kind of thingy are we talking about?

Also for the future a wireless router would come in handy. If I have fast internet someday I can use it very well.

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2004, 10:06:28 PM »
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To connect two wireless devices you MUST have a router, and a method of receiving the "wireless stuff".


Actually, you can connect two wireless clients without a router/access point, but it can be troublesome. It's called Ad-Hoc mode.
 

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2004, 10:49:04 PM »
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it may be cheaper to get a wireless thingy for the laptop then to pay for that cable


What kind of thingy are we talking about?



as i said, a PCI board, PCMCIA card, or USB stick

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Also for the future a wireless router would come in handy. If I have fast internet someday I can use it very well.

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go right ahead, that means that all wireless enabled computers and computer connected to those computer will have internet...

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i don't like the sound of that  :-D
 

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Re: Network help needed!
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2004, 12:05:03 PM »
The cheapest way to do it would be to buy a pci wireless access point (they retail for around 15 pounds), you can then create a bridge connection (windows xp will allow you to do this) so your ipaq should be able to access you amiga as well.

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