A1200 networking

[notelpats]

I found a driver that I hope will work with my pcmcia network card. Now all I need to do, is to figure out what to do next. what software do I need. for the moment, all I am looking to do, is link to my pc and file share. Maybe when I get more memory, I'll the the internet. :-D

[tekmage]

Very cool!   Having recently done this I can give you a few pointers.  First you might want to get Amiga OS 3.5 or Amiga OS 3.9.  The initial challenge is getting a TCP/IP stack to use that nice PCMCIA card you have.  Currently their are two which stand out, Miami and Genesis.  With OS 3.5 and OS 3.9 Genesis is included and you can get up and running pretty easy.  I personally perfer Miami, however I've heard it can be hard to obtain a license key.

After you get the TCP/IP stack installed and configured you should get muiusr38.lha from Aminet.  After Mui is installed I recommend downloading Ibrowse for web browsing.  If you don't want to use Mui and still want to browse the web look for Aweb.

I hope that helps!

Bill "Tekmage" Borsari

[AmiBoy]

Hello

Actually OS3.5 comes with a time limited demo of Miami which times out after half an hour!

I would sudgest getting OS3.9 which cdoes come with a full version of Genesis with no time limit on use!

[notelpats]

Just so that I may clarify what I am wanting right now, I am adding another note to my request for help. I only want to be able to transfer files to and from my Amiga, and my PC. I know I do not have enough memory to surf the web on the Amiga. I just want to see if I can transfer at a faster rate than my parallel port, and serial port currently allow me to.  I have used pc2amiga and it works good, but it is slow. I have to dumb down the pc to safe mode just to get it to work at all. and that takes a long time to do.

Thanks.

[jonssonj]

Hello!

I have not done this myself, but I suspect that you need the Genesis or Miami to communicate with your PC.

I have also heard about a program called Samba in conjunction with networking with PC. I have never used it myself.

I hope this helps a little bit!

/Jörgen

[lgb_post]

Hi,

The first thing to do, is installing ip/tcp.
Then install a ftp server on your pc and a ftp client on your amiga. Setup a ftp sesion to your pc to transfer files.

May this wil help.

[darksun9210]

Assuming you have all the hardware, the pcmcia card, the network etc...

first thing you need is a copy of miami, and a copy of cnet.device in devs:networks.
you should be able to find a copy of miami off of aminet.
even on an unexpanded A1200 with hard disk and pcmcia network card, you'll still have 6-900k of ram left after running the TCP/IP stack. enuff to run an FTP client program also from aminet (about 80k).

set the PC up with static ip address (192.168.0.1)
a static netmask (255.255.255.0)
and if it has access to the internet set the gateway to itself (192.168.0.1)

you can run DHCP, but you need to run a DHCP server on the PC. ok, its easier, but if you are going to run samba, its a pain to deal with. so stick with static addresses if you can

on the amiga, run miami, and set the device to cnet.device and the unit to 0
set the hostname to whatever you want the amiga called on the network (A1200)
set the IP address to static - 192.168.0.2
the netmask to static - 255.255.255.0
the gateway to static - 192.168.0.1 (the PC's address if you want to access the internet through the PC)

these are the basics you need.
you should now be able to get miami online and from the PC, ping the amiga and get a reply. (in a command window type "ping 192.168.0.2") this shows its alive on the network.

on the PC, download an FTP server. i'd recommend WS_FTP server for ease of use. just install and run. piece of cake.

now on the amiga, run your FTP client (probably command line based) and you should be able to connect to the pc, browse and get/put files to and from the PC disks.

samba is a package that allows non-windows machines to be visable and useable on a windows network, you can browse/mount your amiga's drives from the PC's network neightbourhood, and mount the PC's drives on the amiga, set up file share access, user areas, print from the amiga across the network to the PC's printers, mount PC cdroms....

details can be found at www.amigasamba.org.

on an unexpanded A1200, i could mount the PC's drives, but not browse the amiga or mount its drives (only 370k ram left) samba is quite memory hungry. plus i only got a tranbsfer rate of 100k per second over FTP. an accelerated amiga or more ram would get much better xfer rates.

anyone wanna sell a blizzard 060?

[PiR]

Hi

I wanted just the same thing, so I tell you what I did.
Downloaded and installed AmiTCP3.3 from Aminet.
Removed all the included NIC drivers.
Installed suitable NIC driver (3c589 in my case - had a problem with this, but thanks to the Author, I received updated version).
Downloaded only smbfs.lha, not the whole samba package.

I observed some strange behaviour of SMBFS (two shares mounted at the same time went wired, too long time idle connection became sort of dead, renaming (moving) files using amiga templates over mounted share doesn't find all the files in one call, but repeting the same over and over again does the trick), but I use it only when I need to transfer files and files transfered are correct. I guess it's much less memory-eating than the whole samba package.

Good luck

[Piru]

amiga templates over mounted share doesn't find all the files in one call, but repeting the same over and over again does the trick)

If this was the delete problem (every 2nd file deleted with delete #?), I fixed it for smbfs 1.59.

[darksun9210]

oh cool. did you setup the netbios stuff in your TCP/IP stack? or just start the TCP stack without it? i used smbfs to mount drives as didn't have much ram left. i don't start samba, but miami has the netbios services setup, and those point to various programs in the samba bin dricetoy.

i have a feeling that as soon as the PC detects the netbios services are there from another machine, it starts to interrigate it about what shares and stuff it has available, as memory drops alarmingly. (64k!) but then jumps again to 600-700k, as i guess the samba services failed to start due to lack of memory and unloaded themselves....

the PC can see the amiga in the win2k version of network neighbourhood, but can't see the shares (memory again). i have managed to get the samba web admin working across the net if i switch off IE explorer loading the images lol
2Mb ram. its almost laughable now. but a GUI multitasking os, tcp/ip stack and web server in 2mb ram. well happy

[PiR]

@Piru

So this is your child?
Thanks man for that. :-)
And great news about this fix. :-)

@darksun

Well, what do you mean TCP/IP netbios?
If you mean Amiga-side, then I specified IP and netmask statically.For smbfs all other connection parameters are specified at call-time as arguments.
If you meant PC - I didn't touch it, but NIC had been working in PC-network for some time. What I did change is switching PC from DHCP to static IP/netmask. It has Win2000 on it. I didn't try to mount the other way - just one useful way is enough for me.

And I use crossed twin-pair cable 10BaseT.

I didn't measure neither memory usage nor transfer rates.
I'm happy it works. I switched from floppies. ;-)

[PiR]

@Piru

Well, I've used it yesterday again.
I have 1.59 - yes in the doc there is entry saying it is fixed, however it is not working, at least for 'rename'.

4 files named SDL#?

SMBFS: rename SDL#? archives/
[3 files moved]
SMBFS: rename SDL#? archives/
[1 file moved]

I didn't have the time to check in the sources by myself yet.

Cheers

[darksun9210]

@PiR

netbios stuff. i just followed the samba guide for adding netbios services into Miami to allow the PC to mount the miggys drives. didn't do anything to the PC
but hey it works, :-)
and yeah, its a damn site better than floppies :-D

and on an unexpanded A1200, you count every kilobyte ;-)
and ftp from the miggy to the PC when pulling across samba.lha reported xfer rate of 100.6KB/s which did me fine

[PiR]

@darksun

Huhm... Haven't seen any samba guide in life. :-)
Just installed AmiTCP and unLHAd smbfs. Thats it.
Of course that means I do not have Miami.
I guess this netbios stuff is needed only to mount Amiga drive from PC.
I could start thinking about it, if the first direction didn't work.
But if the PC can do the hard job, why to force my Miggy to do that? ;-)
However I'm glad it works for you.

I do not use ftp, as my PC do not have ftp-server, my single try to install ftp-server that came with AmiTCP wasn't successful, and because mounting another logical device is more comfortable than ftp-ing.

Cheers