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Offline Gulliver

Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #14 from previous page: March 16, 2018, 02:31:11 PM »
Hmm... weird issue.

PeterK icon.library works like a charm.

I will report this issue to him so that he might find a workaround or fix.
 

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Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2018, 02:57:14 PM »
This only happens if I use CS MK3, no matter if it's onboard scsi, CybSCSIppc or buddha. If I use an Apollo3060 everything goes fine. I'm starting to wonder if all people say about good compatibility of p5 products might not be so true.
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Offline Gulliver

Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2018, 03:22:03 PM »
Some Phase 5 products are extremely compatible and well designed (example: Blizzard 1230 MKV and its scsi kit), others, unfortunately  not so much (example: BlizzardPPC cards).
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2018, 04:07:56 PM »
If you load the Peter K. icon library through another method, for example LoadModule, does it work then?

I also assume you are trying to use 3.1 + BetterWB.  With 3.5 and above you don't need to use any "special tricks" to install this library.  I would try this combination: 3.9 + Peter K. icon.library + CSMK3.  Does it work then?  

The trick is to find out if the CSMK3 really is having an issue with the icon.library, specifically, or if it's something else buried in configuration.  Good luck!

Edit - try a different/newer version of the icon.library?
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Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2018, 04:42:34 PM »
Hi!
Yes, I'm trying to use OS3.1 + BWB.
I have an instalation of CWB3.9, if it has Peterk icon.library, I don't know, but if it has, it loads normaly and works nice.
Maybe if I try to use loadmodule on OS3.1 it will work.
I also tried the latest version of icon.library, with the same result, no work.
BetterWB works fine, there is just something in icon.library or CS MK3 or Remlib.
 

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Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2018, 04:52:45 PM »
Is there any alternative to Remlib? this seems to be the problem here with CS MK3
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2018, 05:15:48 PM »
Quote from: Marmes;837419
Is there any alternative to Remlib? this seems to be the problem here with CS MK3

I've never played around with RemLib personally, but LoadModule is a great way to load all kinds of other libraries into memory.  Bonus - the author is on this forum.  ;)

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Offline Gulliver

Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2018, 05:47:02 PM »
Yes, LoadModule is a good alternative for what you want to do.
 

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Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2018, 06:08:02 PM »
it works with Loadmodule icon.library

But Remlib cannot be used, therefore it makes a reboot.
 

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Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2018, 06:50:01 PM »
If I use the NOREBOOT option, icon.library doesn't work, I have to make a reboot since there is no way to remove the library from memory first.
 

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Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2018, 07:53:01 PM »
Managed to make it work with some exercise :)

Took setpatch 44.38 from os3.9 bb2
Downloaded latest loadmodule from aminet

C:LoadModule >NIL: LIBS:icon.library LIBS:workbench.library REVERSE NOREBOOT
C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES icon.library workbench.library QUIET

All works fine, but I still would like to see if there is a fix for remlib.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2018, 08:52:02 PM »
The good thing is that we could finally isolate the issue and that there is a workaround.

Now we need a fix.

Anyway, if no fix arrives I will probably end up building an update that enables the workaround if a CSMK3 is found.
 

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Re: BetterWB && CSMK3
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2018, 09:02:57 PM »
Remlib would be perfect if it worked fine with MK3. But hapilly Mr Rapp is still around, maybe he can give a look to this. I'm available for testing things.
Because setpatch 44.38 doesn't belong to OS3.1 and Loadmodule is perfect, but would be unecessary.