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Offline Niding

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2018, 05:01:38 AM »
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Ok, thanks ALB42 and Chain-Q for the inputs.

The Round() issue is now fixed in the next Vampire core.

MUIMapparium runs well now, both CPU and FPU versions are OK.


https://blog.alb42.de/2018/03/02/vampire-v2-7-with-fpu/
 

Offline grond

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2018, 05:46:02 AM »
@Niding

Oh, c'mon, don't confuse kolla with facts, he's having the party of his life because he can piss on other people's free work of an entire year...

"'Quake-enabler'! Brilliant! I need to post this on as many forums as I can!" There goes a happy troll...
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Offline psxphill

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2018, 07:44:08 AM »
Quote from: grond;836909
because he can piss on other people's free work of an entire year...


It's not free.
 

Offline ALB42

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2018, 07:47:32 AM »
FEmu -
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development has stopped.
That's very unfortunate. So there will be no further versions of it? At least for the other Amiga's it's still needed and wanted (030/040 without FPU).
Will the Source code be released as educational piece or under a open source license so that anyone can continue with it.

Is there anyone know something or has contact to Jari?
 

Offline guibrush

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2018, 08:13:03 AM »
Quote from: kolla;836883
It's not an FPU, it's a Quake enabler.

Seriously ? What about Quake 2, Sysinfo, AIBB, Redrats, MWI-Kioea, Singulartity is just the beginning, software make the dance foam oil, Ghosttown metropolis, respirator stories, Lux Aeterna Lucia est, dekandence swansong, AFAOS, ScumVM FPU version, Netsurf FPU version, Warp3d FPU, Imagine 4.0, Lightwave, and all the other FPU programs working right now ?
do we have to call our FPU a [paste here the name of one of the many working FPU program above] enabler, or can we just call it a FPU ?
Man, you remind me a cop trying to find THE little thing letting him giving a fine to a random picked up car on the street.
The team implemented this hardware FPU in a little more than one year, this was an incredible amount of work. And we will still continue to polish the last remaining bugs, thanks the constructive returns of the users. For example, the Maparium bug was found and I can tell you that this is already corrected, as you can see on this video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kefOi07_ons
So, the team is not sitting on a chair doing nothing.
 The fact is that we have now a working FPU that is fast and that let the users run almost all FPU programs out there.
Have a nice day.
 

Offline grond

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2018, 08:17:14 AM »
Quote from: psxphill;836910
It's not free.

Oh, yes, it is. Firstly, this is not a paid update. Try replacing an LC040 for a 040 for free. And the price you pay is for the hardware, the core developer team hasn't got a penny.
 

Offline PPC

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2018, 08:21:19 AM »
Quote from: kolla;836907
BTW - I have not found a way to permanently disable the "FPU", apart from going back to core 2.5 - the VControl can only turn it off till next reboot (or to be more... hohum... accurate, next crash).


Then the FPU is not your problem, runs 100% stable here.
I can use my Amiga for hours and hours playing all kind of FPU stuff and it doesn't crash/reboot etc.
Amiga is addictive coz it is fun to use

A1200 Elbox power tower, BPPC 040/25+603e 240 Mhz, 128 MB RAM,Bvision,Zorro IV&Zorro IV PCI busboard,X-surf,Buddha IDE
A4000 Elbox power tower,CSPPC 060/60+604e 233Mhz, 128 MB RAM,CvisonPPC, AriadneII
A600+Vampire V2,A604N+RTC,SUM USB keyboard controller,Topolino with logitech wireless keyboard&mouse
 

Offline asrael22

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2018, 08:50:03 AM »
Quote from: ALB42;836911
FEmu -
That's very unfortunate. So there will be no further versions of it? At least for the other Amiga's it's still needed and wanted (030/040 without FPU).
Will the Source code be released as educational piece or under a open source license so that anyone can continue with it.

Is there anyone know something or has contact to Jari?


Yeah, should be put under open-source license and uploaded to Aminet or GitHub.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2018, 09:08:59 AM »
Quote from: grond;836914
Oh, yes, it is. Firstly, this is not a paid update. Try replacing an LC040 for a 040 for free. And the price you pay is for the hardware, the core developer team hasn't got a penny.

Your argument might hold water if you could go out and buy a non vampire card and run apollo on it.

Can someone explain to me what white listing, mentioned on the fpu thread, is about?
 

Offline grond

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2018, 10:11:52 AM »
Quote from: psxphill;836917
Your argument might hold water if you could go out and buy a non vampire card and run apollo on it.

Even if a buyer of the card were _entitled_ to a free upgrade, it doesn't turn the team's work into PAID work. Join the team and try it for yourself. As already mentioned before, nobody in the team got a penny for a year's worth of work on the core.

And, as a matter of fact, the core has been offered for license, it's just that nobody has been wanting to make any non-Vampire cards. Furthermore, you can also put tg68 on your Vampire and enjoy the speed of an 020/030 (without FPU, of course) instead.
 

Offline AJCopland

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2018, 10:52:06 AM »
Quote from: grond;836918
Furthermore, you can also put tg68 on your Vampire and enjoy the speed of an 020/030 (without FPU, of course) instead.


You can? Is the source for that available?

Offline ALB42

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2018, 11:07:01 AM »
Quote from: guibrush;836913
For example, the Maparium bug was found and I can tell you that this is already corrected, as you can see on this video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kefOi07_ons

Uhhh... I didn't know that Video, only read that it should be solved. :)

Yes looks very nice, also the precision seems to be not a big issue, but this I would like to test myself. Hard to see on a video.

hmm seems he did not find the Track Property window but it looked like he searched for it, ok "Edit" is a stupid name there. interesting :) Thanks for sharing.

But the Video reminds me, I really should release the new Version with keep-alive support for the network, it makes the map download 10x faster 40kb/s (in the Video) is really slow, on MOS/AROS I reach now >1 MB/s, on Classic 100-400 kb/s should be possible.
 

Offline grond

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2018, 11:37:02 AM »
Quote from: AJCopland;836919
You can? Is the source for that available?

tg68 is an open-source 68k core. If you want to put it in the Vampire, I'm sure the team would be happy to help you with pinouts.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2018, 12:27:13 PM »
Quote from: grond;836918
Even if a buyer of the card were _entitled_ to a free upgrade, it doesn't turn the team's work into PAID work. Join the team and try it for yourself. As already mentioned before, nobody in the team got a penny for a year's worth of work on the core.

I am sorry for you, but somebody has then been making profit out of your free work for over a year: as we all know, Vampires arent sold at cost.

I hope you get some compensation for your work.
 

Offline psxphill

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2018, 12:58:34 PM »
Quote from: Gulliver;836923
I am sorry for you, but somebody has then been making profit out of your free work for over a year: as we all know, Vampires arent sold at cost.

I hope you get some compensation for your work.

Maybe everyone should boycott buying vampires if Apollo development is slave labour?

Just because something doesn't cost, doesn't make it free. For example.

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/31/tech/web/gmail-privacy-problems/index.html

I assume Apollo developers think they will make money out of it eventually.
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