Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic  (Read 2160 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline tlgroomsTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 72
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Show only replies by tlgrooms
    • CIA Amiga BBS
Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« on: February 26, 2018, 07:09:51 PM »
I bought Amiga OS 4.0 back in 1987 for my 3000T with Cyberstorm PPC card.  When I tried to install my hardware quit working so I was unable to ever install it.  I see now they have 4.1 Final Edition for Classic and was wondering if I need to rebuy the OS to get 4.1 or if it is available as upgrades to 4.0?  I am getting ready to reload my working machine.

Thanks for any info.
Tim
Try my Amiga BBS -> telnet ciaamiga.org:6400 or www.ciaamiga.org
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 07:30:03 PM »
Quote from: tlgrooms;836701
I bought Amiga OS 4.0 back in 1987

1987?  That's pretty impressive, considering it wasn't even released until 2004.  :lol:

As far as answering your question I have no idea if you can install 4.0 and then run whatever updater it includes a million times to update all the way to the latest 4.1 FE.  Personally, if it were me, I'd just pay the money to get the latest 4.1 FE disc and install from that.  Will probably give you a much more stable and smooth installation process, if nothing else.  Good luck!
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

Offline AmigaOldskooler

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2014
  • Posts: 327
  • Country: no
  • Thanked: 31 times
  • Gender: Male
  • a.k.a Puni/Void
    • Show only replies by AmigaOldskooler
    • Old School Game Blog
Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 09:24:45 PM »
Quote from: tlgrooms;836701
I bought Amiga OS 4.0 back in 1987 for my 3000T with Cyberstorm PPC card.  When I tried to install my hardware quit working so I was unable to ever install it.  I see now they have 4.1 Final Edition for Classic and was wondering if I need to rebuy the OS to get 4.1 or if it is available as upgrades to 4.0?  I am getting ready to reload my working machine.

Thanks for any info.
Tim


Hi Tim,

You'll need to purchase 4.1 Final Edition. It costs about 29 EUR. :)

http://amigastore.eu/en/321-amigaos-41-final-edition-all-systems.html

Offline tlgroomsTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 72
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Show only replies by tlgrooms
    • CIA Amiga BBS
Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 10:39:51 PM »
Man, I don't know where I came up with 1987?  That should have said 2007.  Ha!  Only 20 years difference.

Ok, that's what I'll do, thanks for the info.

Tim
Try my Amiga BBS -> telnet ciaamiga.org:6400 or www.ciaamiga.org
 

Offline Steady

Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 11:49:51 PM »
As above, you will need to buy 4.1FE because it requires a clean install.
 

Offline AmigaEd

  • His Dudeness, El Duderino
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2005
  • Posts: 512
    • Show only replies by AmigaEd
Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 12:12:09 AM »
Oh Man! Imagine the chaos that would have ensued if OS4 had been available in 1987.
"Pretty soon they will have numbers tattooed on our foreheads." - Jay Miner 1990

La Familia...
A1K - La Primera Dama -1987
A1K - La Princesa- January 2005
A2K - La Reina - February 2005
A2K - Doomy - March 2005
A500 - El Gran Jugador - April 2005
A1200 - La Hermosa Vista - May 2005
A2KHD - El Duro Grande - May 2005
A600 - PrĂ­stino - May 2005
A1200 - El Trueno Grande - July 2005
CDTV - El Misterioso - August 2005
C64 - El Gran Lebows
 

Offline kreciu

Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2018, 02:34:39 PM »
Quote from: tlgrooms;836701
I bought Amiga OS 4.0 back in 1987 for my 3000T with Cyberstorm PPC card.  When I tried to install my hardware quit working so I was unable to ever install it.  I see now they have 4.1 Final Edition for Classic and was wondering if I need to rebuy the OS to get 4.1 or if it is available as upgrades to 4.0?  I am getting ready to reload my working machine.

Thanks for any info.
Tim

Just FYI. Before you start working on it, set your expectation as low as possible. Example: If you see ANYTHING during initial boot/install. You can get yourself beer. If you get to the point you can actually INSTALL it, you can drink your beer. IF your Amiga will boot from clean installation/cold start you can get another beer. IF your Amiga will not hung up within next 10 minutes... you can drink it. That way when you get to install "Enhancer Pack 1" (that will screw up whole installation) you are going to be drunk so you will not bother anymore by how bad AmigaOS4.1 is on the Classic :P.

PS. Personally I don't drink... maybe I should when I use my AmigaOS4.1 on my A1200 PPC ;)
Re-A1200inE/BOX/3.2/AmigaOS3.2/TF1260@66Mhz/256Mb/MediatorTX/R9200SE/SpiderUSB/LAN/SB128/16Gb-CF/DVD-ROM/FDD-HD
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 05:49:13 PM »
OS4.1FE isn't too shabby on my A3000/CSPPC/CVPPC.
B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC
---
A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline tlgroomsTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 72
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Show only replies by tlgrooms
    • CIA Amiga BBS
Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2018, 06:23:45 PM »
I was just about to ask that kolla.  Did you have trouble installing it?  I have a SCSI2SD board I'm thinking about trying to set it up on with the Cyberstorm.  I wonder if that would be slower access than if I used an UWide drive?  I have a 4.3 gig ultrawide drive.
Try my Amiga BBS -> telnet ciaamiga.org:6400 or www.ciaamiga.org
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2018, 10:30:47 PM »
Quote from: tlgrooms;836734
I was just about to ask that kolla.  Did you have trouble installing it?  I have a SCSI2SD board I'm thinking about trying to set it up on with the Cyberstorm.  I wonder if that would be slower access than if I used an UWide drive?  I have a 4.3 gig ultrawide drive.

I can't remember any problems in particular when installing, no.

I use use a 750GB IDE disk connected to the SCSI3 connector on the CSPPC via an ACARD adapter. I don't remember exactly, but I think perhaps I just copied the content of the boot floppy ADF to a temporary boot partition and copied the content of the CD to another temporary partition aptly named CD0 for the occasion and same label as the OS4.1FE CD, and then installed to a fresh OS4.1 boot partition from those. One thing is certain, my A3000 does not have any floppy drive, and only CD drive I have is a USB DVD drive that works with the Deneb, so I must have been creative :)  There are also OS3.9 and MorphOS partitions on that drive, I prepared partitions from OS3.9 first.
B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC
---
A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kreciu

Re: Amiga OS 4.0 and 4.1 Final Edition for Classic
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 04:24:49 PM »
I can't use Update 1. It will NOT work (I tried few tricks).

I assume that on A3000 with SCSI works way better then on m A1200 with stock IDE controller (since FastATA that I have and should be supported it NOT supported! - I can't use CD-ROM and HDD at the same time).

So, my AmigaOS4.1 on classic is super slow (read/write). CPU is quite OK for most stuff. It works OKish, looks very nice etc. etc. but I don't consider this as a "final" edition, more like advanced beta. It was cheap (if you have PPC!!!) so no complains here.

I also wish that AmigaOS4.1 would have native access to most other hardware on my Amiga 1200. Then it would be my main OS "forever", but at this point is more a as "I can do it, so I did it".
« Last Edit: February 28, 2018, 04:27:04 PM by kreciu »
Re-A1200inE/BOX/3.2/AmigaOS3.2/TF1260@66Mhz/256Mb/MediatorTX/R9200SE/SpiderUSB/LAN/SB128/16Gb-CF/DVD-ROM/FDD-HD