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Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« on: January 12, 2018, 11:53:31 PM »
Hi all,

I wonder if you can help.

I have an Amiga 1000 RevA board. When I switch it on there is the usual 4 flashes from the power LED, then a few seconds delay until I hear the 'boot beeps', the second the sound stops the screen goes orange/yellow and that's where she will sit. No life from the floppy drive, no flashing power LED, nothing on the screen other than a blank orange/yellow page. It will do this with or without the floppy drive, keyboard or mouse connected.

I have removed and re seated all the chips, everything looked fine, the board is very clean with no signs of damage. I also recapped the entire board.

None of what I have tried so far has made a difference, still the same behaviour.


Any suggestions guys?

Faulty chip? Power supply failing maybe? ( I have yet to recap the PSU )

What's your thoughts?

Thanks.
 

Offline mechy

Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2018, 04:25:21 PM »
Start with checking power supply voltages.

Yellow - The CPU encountered an error before the system's error-trapping code (the code the calls up the Guru) was in place.

checked polarity is right on all caps?

swap the cpu maybe if you have a spare but i doubt that is it.

http://www.amicue.org/TechStuff/amigaboot.html  this might be useful.

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Hi all,

I wonder if you can help.

I have an Amiga 1000 RevA board. When I switch it on there is the usual 4 flashes from the power LED, then a few seconds delay until I hear the 'boot beeps', the second the sound stops the screen goes orange/yellow and that's where she will sit. No life from the floppy drive, no flashing power LED, nothing on the screen other than a blank orange/yellow page. It will do this with or without the floppy drive, keyboard or mouse connected.

I have removed and re seated all the chips, everything looked fine, the board is very clean with no signs of damage. I also recapped the entire board.

None of what I have tried so far has made a difference, still the same behaviour.


Any suggestions guys?

Faulty chip? Power supply failing maybe? ( I have yet to recap the PSU )

What's your thoughts?

Thanks.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2018, 04:28:32 PM by mechy »
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2018, 09:31:31 PM »
Was the computer working before you started recapping ?

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 12:32:12 AM »
Thanks guys for your valuable input.

The polarity of the caps is correct. Some of the originals were about 10% off their correct values, but generally all the caps were within tolerances - pretty good for very old caps.

The computer has been doing this since I acquired it.

I have a buddy that 'might' lend me a CPU to swap and try. So it's possible that the CPU is fubar?
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2018, 12:44:49 AM »
Thanks guys for your valuable input.

The polarity of the caps is correct. Some of the originals were about  10% off their correct values, but generally all the caps were within  tolerances - pretty good for very old caps.

The computer has been doing this since I acquired it.

I have a buddy that 'might' lend me a CPU to swap and try. So it's possible that the CPU is fubar?

Power supply voltages.....

Looking at the power connector Left to Right  Brown/Orange/Black/Black/Red/Red/Grey

With  my NEG terminal of my multimeter on the Left Black pin I get.......  Brown -5.03v / Orange 12v / Black (NEG PIN OF MULTIMETER) / Black 0v /  Red 5.15v / 5.15v / Grey 3.26v
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2018, 01:44:33 AM »
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I have a buddy that 'might' lend me a CPU to swap and try. So it's possible that the CPU is fubar?

You can pick up a spare 68000 or 68010 CPU on ebay for around $5 USD as a test.  :)
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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2018, 03:31:20 PM »
Quote from: RSwipe CA;835003
Thanks guys for your valuable input.

The polarity of the caps is correct. Some of the originals were about  10% off their correct values, but generally all the caps were within  tolerances - pretty good for very old caps.

The computer has been doing this since I acquired it.

I have a buddy that 'might' lend me a CPU to swap and try. So it's possible that the CPU is fubar?

Power supply voltages.....

Looking at the power connector Left to Right  Brown/Orange/Black/Black/Red/Red/Grey

With  my NEG terminal of my multimeter on the Left Black pin I get.......  Brown -5.03v / Orange 12v / Black (NEG PIN OF MULTIMETER) / Black 0v /  Red 5.15v / 5.15v / Grey 3.26v


Don't know which Amiga 1000 you have. They are either 120 or 240volts. Here is a picture with a label on the CPU that might help plus both types. Ignore the Spirit.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_january18_2/car_sbd_110118_57.jpg

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_january18/scuzzblogdjanuary18_1103.htm

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_january18/scuzzblogdjanuary18_1104.htm

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2018, 10:19:13 PM »
Sorry. It's a North American 120v system.
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2018, 10:26:31 PM »
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Don't know which Amiga 1000 you have. They are either 120 or 240volts. Here is a picture with a label on the CPU that might help plus both types. Ignore the Spirit.

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_january18_2/car_sbd_110118_57.jpg

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_january18/scuzzblogdjanuary18_1103.htm

http://www.scuzzscink.com/amiga/scuzzblog_january18/scuzzblogdjanuary18_1104.htm

Sorry. this one is a 120v North American system. Thanks for your great information. It appears that my PSU is ok?
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2018, 10:27:10 PM »
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You can pick up a spare 68000 or 68010 CPU on ebay for around $5 USD as a test.  :)

 I have ordered a replacement HD68000P8 CPU from Ebay. I will try the CPU as soon as it arrives and report back.  Thanks for your reply.
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 09:59:33 PM »
So. The new CPU finally arrived. Unfortunately it has made no difference, it still boots to an orange screen. Would it have anything to do with the display chip? I have fixed issues with old Sinclairs and an Atari 800xl, but this is my first time trying to get an Amiga alive again. Which chips are directly concerned with video output? I am planning on spending a bit more time on this old Amiga this weekend. We will fix it!!!!
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2018, 02:13:07 AM »
After digging around on the net I stumbled across some info that lead me to the 8361R3 Agnus chip as possibly causing the issue. I was able to borrow a 'tester' and when that was fitted I got the correct boot screen asking for the Kickstart Disk. So, it looks like that's all it was. Now waiting on a replacement arriving. Thanks very much for all your help guys.
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 02:01:55 AM »
Thanks for the solution. I have an A1000 that I will be attempting to revive later on this year.
 

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Re: Amiga 1000 Orange/Yellow screen at power on
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 02:26:04 AM »
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Thanks for the solution. I have an A1000 that I will be attempting to revive later on this year.


No Problem. Good luck!