Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update

[BozzerBigD]

Just use TurboPrint with the best supported printer you can find on eBay and don't let it break down! IrseeSoft will issue more updates one day if we wait long enough and maybe new DENEB USB boards will be given away with breakfast cereal :laugh1:

[kreciu]

OS3.1 Update? As you can see there is plenty of people that would like to have update "here and there" etc. Like I wrote before, leave it as is. That way it stays as a retro system with all it limitations etc. Most of those limitations can be overcome in some way and is actually part of "retro experience".

If someone have to much time in their hands why not to fix AmigaOS4.1 FE for Classics? This system can't be installed on "supported" HW without many issues, Update 1 is useless and Enhancer Package for classics is configured by default not for classics but for way more powerful Amiga. Why not to add support for some other HW?

[BozzerBigD]

@kreciu

That way it stays as a retro system with all it limitations etc. Most of  those limitations can be overcome in some way and is actually part of  "retro experience".

So struggling to get a 4Gb+ hard drive to work is "part of the retro experience" is it? Or are hard drives voodoo too because you think an unexpanded A500 was the only 'true' Amiga? There is nothing wrong with removing bugs but it is a shame we can't use the OS3.9 code base after all these years :-(

[psxphill]

If someone have to much time in their hands why not to fix AmigaOS4.1 FE for Classics?

If you have enough time to write this post, then why can't you come and clean my car?

[kamelito]

@Olsen @Thor
One update has already been done but what is the plan regarding pricing.
If I buy a new update of WB&KS are the update after them free?
If yes free until when? 3.2?
Kamelito

[guest11527]

@Olsen @Thor
One update has already been done but what is the plan regarding pricing.
If I buy a new update of WB&KS are the update after them free?
If yes free until when? 3.2?
Kamelito

We are developers, not product managers. I cannot really say anything about pricing whatsoever.

[kamelito]

We are developers, not product managers. I cannot really say anything about pricing whatsoever.

Good. So I suppose that there's a plan to publish all developers information to date for the OS. Something like wiki.amigaos.net but for AmigaOS 3.1.x and maintain it if the developer API evolve. To my knowledge only 2.0 is covered by the RKRM.

Kamelito

[olsen]

Good. So I suppose that there's a plan to publish all developers information to date for the OS. Something like wiki.amigaos.net but for AmigaOS 3.1.x and maintain it if the developer API evolve. To my knowledge only 2.0 is covered by the RKRM.

Kamelito

This is definitely in the cards. For AmigaOS4 the complete 3rd RKM text was imported into MediaWiki (from the original manuscripts), revised and subsequently updated to cover AmigaOS4. The same could be done for AmigaOS 3.

However, getting everything revised and updated for AmigaOS4, including the illustrations, was a huge effort that took its time. So, please be patient...

[kamelito]

This is definitely in the cards. For AmigaOS4 the complete 3rd RKM text was imported into MediaWiki (from the original manuscripts), revised and subsequently updated to cover AmigaOS4. The same could be done for AmigaOS 3.

However, getting everything revised and updated for AmigaOS4, including the illustrations, was a huge effort that took its time. So, please be patient...

 Sure but, when it was imported in the wiki all the docs where the 3rd RKRM with nothing specific to OS4, so it has already been done. Why not go back to the point of the first import? Except course if you do not share with them. Kamelito

[olsen]

Sure but, when it was imported in the wiki all the docs where the 3rd RKRM with nothing specific to OS4, so it has already been done. Why not go back to the point of the first import? Except course if you do not share with them. Kamelito

Yes, that's the point I was making. However, importing the text is but just the first step of making the contents available.

For example, the illustrations need to be imported as well, which is a tad difficult. These are PostScript files, and a good number of these are missing and cannot be regenerated from the original Professional Page files due to corruption. For AmigaOS4 that problem was solved by redrawing the missing illustrations. The illustrations were then rendered to PNG image files.

If I remember correctly, the import process generated artefacts in the wiki text which had to be found and repaired manually, and then there's the issue with hyperlinks.

All of that was done for the AmigaOS4 version, and it's a time-consuming process which, while doable, requires a lot of effort.

[kamelito]

Yes, that's the point I was making. However, importing the text is but just the first step of making the contents available.

For example, the illustrations need to be imported as well, which is a tad difficult. These are PostScript files, and a good number of these are missing and cannot be regenerated from the original Professional Page files due to corruption. For AmigaOS4 that problem was solved by redrawing the missing illustrations. The illustrations were then rendered to PNG image files.

If I remember correctly, the import process generated artefacts in the wiki text which had to be found and repaired manually, and then there's the issue with hyperlinks.

All of that was done for the AmigaOS4 version, and it's a time-consuming process which, while doable, requires a lot of effort.

 Fair enough, don't hesitate to ask for help for the wiki, I'm sure that many are willing to help.  Kamelito

[Cass]

Probably just about any current printer can be used with a PostScript driver - if you don't mind printing through a PC or RaspberryPi. There are some network printing utilities on Aminet (like http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/NetPrinter or http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/lpr-dev) - it should be possible to print via properly configured Linux machine.

This is true for an old CUPS version (a couple of years ago). Since then, the CUPS support seems to be broken (SSL issues?).

[chris]

This is true for an old CUPS version (a couple of years ago). Since then, the CUPS support seems to be broken (SSL issues?).

Maybe not...

[kolla]

Just port DCL already, hehehe :p

Holy crap, I should be careful with what I suggest! :roflmao:

http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/AmiVms

[dalek]

Holy crap, I should be careful with what I suggest! :roflmao:

http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/AmiVms

Wow - as an ex OpenVMS guy that is a seriously cool piece of work.  Can't think why I would ever use it these days though, but damn some work went in to it!

Must have been used for porting apps to the amiga at one stage.

[jsixis]

every time they upgrade 3.1 they make it slower. 3.9 , I wish I had never installed it, it turned my wondefull Amigas into something really ugly to look at and so slow I haven't turned them on in 8 years.
Just swung in here today just to see if it was still alive.