News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License

[TheMagicM]

Enforcer,  mungwall...

etc..

You've stated this since page 1.   How many more pages do you need?   I'd love to start deleting posts again :-)

[Chucky]

You've stated this since page 1.   How many more pages do you need?   I'd love to start deleting posts again :-)

Well still people asks for examples?  isn't it strange? TECHNICALLY I never mentioned the software by name.. only by function.

[kolla]

I don't care about MMU tools for AmigaOS, since I am not developing on Amiga. Classic Amiga is useless as developing platform anyways. All development these days is done with cross compilers and debugging is done using WinUAE. Right?

[Chucky]

well as WinUAE does not have 080 emulation.....
but yeah!  I do 98% of my coding in uae..   true..

[Iggy]

At least as an FPGA.

And in time, the PPC will almost certainly end up as a replacement candidate as well.

I can't see that being fast enough to interest me, but it could be done. It's already done under UAE.
For now, we have ( or will soon have) the PPC hardware we need, and my primary NG OS is eventually moving to X64, so I won't really need PPC FPGA emulation.
Besides, Gunnar doesn't seem to be an advocate of it.

The argument could be made that an enhanced 68K would prove just as powerful, but I'm not weighing in on that.
I am 100% sure that no solution we come with on our own will even come close to a modern X64 CPU though.

[wawrzon]

Right?

wrong..

[kreciu]

It just prove that Amiga NG was RIGTH way to develop new amiga.

...and for those Intel haters I think that AmigaOS should run on Intel cpu's and emulate everything else for sake of compatibility.

:-)

[johnklos]

Amiga users everywhere lay awake at night wondering how they will get NetBSD running on their systems....

Sigh. Well, one of us does...

[LoadWB]

I dunno.  AmigaOS x86/64 might mean less expensive hardware.  Hell, at this point maybe an up-and-coming processor like ARM might work out.  Though that might make Amiga too much like an Acorn.

[kreciu]

I dunno.  AmigaOS x86/64 might mean less expensive hardware.  Hell, at this point maybe an up-and-coming processor like ARM might work out.  Though that might make Amiga too much like an Acorn.

I think in all of those discussions, people need to ask question what makes an Amiga?

I have to say. If my AmigaOS4.1 would run as good as my WindowsXP on PIII 600Mhz + RivaTNT2. I really would not care what in under the hood.

Considering that basically there is not Amiga "proprietary" CPU/HW since ALL of this HW is available for other systems, really what is such a big deal about making AmigaOS4.1 for Intel based HW? It is not like I'm using Amiga specific LAN, sound card, GPU, ram, HDD etc. etc. even Amiga specific HW such as BVision was developed for PC computers etc. etc.

Can someone give me a reason why we have to have either 060 or PPC for AmigaOS. Some different reason then: Windows will not run on it. This was important 25 years ago...

What is most important/problematic: Waiting for under powered new PPC HW or waiting for AmigaOS that is widely available?

[Niding]

@kreciu

I suspect the sheer work of making it x86 based would that many years, so not really realistic, espesially given aeon and acube has sunk alot into PPC.

Maybe Im wrong, but thats the first thing that comes to mind regarding platform move.

[LoadWB]

How's AROS doing these days?

[kreciu]

How's AROS doing these days?

I was thinking about MorhpOS when I read your post...  I think we need more diversity in Amiga environment, that will help a LOT.

[ne_one]

I am 100% sure that no solution we come with on our own will even come close to a modern X64 CPU though.

In many respects, Apollo extends the life of the Amiga while the PPC merely prolongs its death.

I'm assuming MorphOS is your NG OS of choice. Do we know how far off it is from x64?

[ne_one]

I think we need more diversity in Amiga environment, that will help a LOT.

I may have missed the obvious sarcasm.

How would increased diversity help? Having multiple half-baked OS options has been a disaster for this market.

[LoadWB]

I was thinking about MorhpOS when I read your post...  I think we need more diversity in Amiga environment, that will help a LOT.

hehehe I rather like MorphOS and would not be upset at all to see it running on x86/64 hardware.  My thought was that AROS was targeted for the x86 all along so it might be the most likely candidate.