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Vampire on eBay.
« on: July 25, 2017, 09:14:35 AM »
Interesting blog on Majsta.com on the troubles he is being put through trying to sell Vampires on eBay.
http://majsta.com/
I thought I might share.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2017, 02:24:13 PM by eliyahu »
 

Offline David Wright

Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 02:07:01 PM »
I believe Majsta is hurt by the fact that there are people vile enough to try and take income away from someone in such a vile way. This is a very small part of his sales so his success will be his response.
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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2017, 02:45:38 PM »
Unbelievable.  He ought to just go to Amibay and post it there, instead.
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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2017, 03:54:34 PM »
If / When I order,  it will be from source. No parasites leaching off the profit.
 
 Snag with Amibay is, they're demand geolocation by electronic means before you can post - true for buyers as well as sellers.
 
 I'm sure they have good reasons for doing that, but it doesn't help smooth selling of new products, rather than vintage gear in short supply.
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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2017, 05:36:01 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;828703
Snag with Amibay is

Amibay has strict TOS.  *Very* strict, some would say.  Still probably wouldn't hurt to sell them there... weren't they being sold there originally?  Back when the project first started?


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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2017, 05:50:45 PM »
Quote from: gertsy;828680
Interesting blog on Majsta.com on the troubles he is being put through trying to sell Vampires on eBay.
http://majsta.com/
I thought I might share.

I've never had an issue with my listings on eBay.
Sounds like someone is screwing with him.

Kolla, maybe? ;-)
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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2017, 06:00:49 PM »
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Kolla, maybe? ;-)


i dont think so. and lets not throw accusations around except backed up with something worthy.
 

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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2017, 06:00:51 PM »
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Sounds like someone is screwing with him.


Sounds like somebody who has OCD regarding Amiga nostalgia...

... which doesn't exactly narrow the field of suspects.
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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2017, 06:04:31 PM »
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I believe Majsta is hurt by the fact that there are people vile enough to try and take income away from someone in such a vile way. This is a very small part of his sales so his success will be his response.


From the OP link:
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my account on E-bay is suspended yesterday, consequences are huge because this harms my reputation there and rights to buy certain components we need for cards production.


If I read this correctly then, it also affects production of cards to some degree, no?

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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2017, 06:05:44 PM »
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i dont think so. and lets not throw accusations around except backed up with something worthy.


That wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
His posts are a constant stream of negative BS, but I don't think he'd feel the need to do something in secret.

But it does sound like someone is being malicious.
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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2017, 07:59:51 PM »
Since he's setting up distribution with at least one vendor, maybe he could just tell eBay to go fvck itself?  The whole thing just sounds ridiculous, and considering eBay's pulling 10% of the sales of his hard work which infringes nothing, eBay should just fvck off.
 

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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2017, 08:04:17 PM »
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Since he's setting up distribution with at least one vendor, maybe he could just tell eBay to go fvck itself?  The whole thing just sounds ridiculous, and considering eBay's pulling 10% of the sales of his hard work which infringes nothing, eBay should just fvck off.

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Offline Pgovotsos

Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2017, 09:45:00 PM »
It could also be another ebay seller trying to get revenge. For some time Majsta was very active in reporting other people selling Vampires for gross profits. Apparently he many listings pulled. It could just be one of those people trying to hurt him back.

I think this is my opinion on this but I'm not certain it really is or is the right opinion. I understand his reasons for going after the other sellers but I don't think it was the best choice. Complain on his blog as much as he wants but I think going after the other sellers just set himself up for this kind of response. Tick off people enough times and eventually they will strike back. I don't think he should have worried about it. He had already made his money on the original sale. What people do with it after buying it really is out of his control.

Does the reselling have the feeling of something morally wrong? Perhaps. But is it actually wrong? We've had many conversations here making fun of some eBay auctions and seem to always come to the conclusion that, while ridiculous, if someone is willing to pay a ridiculous price, they will. That's one of the ideas behind the secondary market. I don't have to like it, Majsta obviously doesn't like it, but that's the way it is.

I'm still not sure that that will be my opinion after sitting down and thinking about it for a while, but it's the first thing that came to mind. Regardless, now we're in the situation of it possibly taking even longer than before to get Vampires produced and sold. If Majsta becomes unable to affordably get needed parts, production may halt.

Majsta has gotten more than his share of flack from people against the project. Could this be the attack that pushes him over the line and just wash his hands of the entire project? I don't know but I think I would understand if it does.
 

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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 11:21:39 PM »
@thread

either way, it's unfortunate. these vampire cards are the best things to happen to amiga in a long time. and the team don't deserve having this kind of nonsense thrown at them (IMO, of course).

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Re: Vampire on eBay.
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2017, 01:23:28 AM »
I don't know where the idea that restrictions on your seller account would affect your ability to buy came from, but think about it...its basically nonsense.
Even if your account was suspended, eBay doesn't track who is buying an item, or place restrictions on who you can sell to.
If there was a problem...you'd just buy it with a different account.
It's a bogus argument.
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