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Offline Matt_H

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2017, 07:09:26 PM »
Oh, they are definitely very closely related, absolutely. They share a lot of components, but not all. The "heart" of MorphPlus is the same as the "heart" of ADPro. All I am saying is that MorphPlus is not the "new name" for ADPro. They were sold as separate products.

Functionally, think of it this way:
ADPro = full image processing
MorphPlus = some image processing + morphing
or
MorphPlus = ADPro - some_modules + morphing
 

Offline Nick_66Topic starter

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Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2017, 10:33:31 PM »
Hi all!

Thanks for all the advice!

Just back from holiday and haven't got the time to read through all your answers.

I will install ADPro with the default options on my A1200 as adviced. I have a 4GB hd installed so diskspace wouldn't be an issue I think.

I also use Dopus as my main file manager. The way I would like to work with my images is putting them on a CF card on my PC and convert them later on my A1200 to be displayed in HAM modus.

I have a ACA1233 accelerator installed on my A1200 with a MC68030 40MHz CPU from Individual Computers.

On my A500plus I have the newest ACA500plus installed combined with the ACA1221 accelerator.
 

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Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2017, 03:32:44 AM »
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I would like to display images made with my modern digital Olympus camera on my A1200 in HAM modus.

Like the guys on this video: https://youtu.be/eQmkOhFzzak


Hey cool Nick!  Glad you got something out of our video.  Yeah, like others have said, install ADPro on your awesome A1200.  Do an expert install and just install everything.  a 4GB hard drive is some crazy futuristic stuff man! Just pile it on that baby!

We also made a follow up to that video if you are interested. https://youtu.be/_dHV_Lcbxjo

There is lots of good discussion in the comments to both videos.  I have been having a blast mixing modern gear with the Amiga.  At Vintage Computer Festival East I was taking photos of people with my DSLR, grabbing the image with DCTV, converting to HAM with ADPro, then making a watermark with DPaint.  You can see me doing it here https://youtu.be/HEIesAtmKfM?t=5m54s It was really funand everyone got a kick out of it.

I have a lot more crazy graphics and video projects planned mixing modern stuff with my Amiga so stay tuned!

Offline motrucker

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2017, 01:33:41 PM »
I hate to throw a curve into this thread, but, why not track down a copy of ImageFX and use that instead of AdPro.
Granted AdPro is a good program, that even in todays world can accomplish a lot.
ImageFX can do more however. I still use version 4 on my trusty old A2000.
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Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2017, 08:26:59 PM »
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I hate to throw a curve into this thread, but, why not track down a copy of ImageFX and use that instead of AdPro.
Granted AdPro is a good program, that even in todays world can accomplish a lot.
ImageFX can do more however. I still use version 4 on my trusty old A2000.


I use ADPro because that is what I used back in the day, so it brings back lots of great memories and I know how to use it.  But I know that ImageFX continued to be developed after ASDG no longer supported ADPro so it has more modern features.  Believe it or not my friend just brought his original ImageFX manual to our last user group meeting so I will be learning it as well.  I like learning from an actual manual - old school!

I actually have a project I want to do that requires batch processing so I have to see if ImageFX does it better.  With ADPro you need to make an AREXX script.  I forgot how to do that, but it will be fun to learn again!

Offline Matt_H

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2017, 09:05:55 PM »
Quote from: BillWinters;829233
I use ADPro because that is what I used back in the day, so it brings back lots of great memories and I know how to use it.  But I know that ImageFX continued to be developed after ASDG no longer supported ADPro so it has more modern features.  Believe it or not my friend just brought his original ImageFX manual to our last user group meeting so I will be learning it as well.  I like learning from an actual manual - old school!

I actually have a project I want to do that requires batch processing so I have to see if ImageFX does it better.  With ADPro you need to make an AREXX script.  I forgot how to do that, but it will be fun to learn again!


There was an ADPro batch processing add-on. I think it was called ProControl. I've been looking for a copy for ages and haven't been able to find it!
 

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Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2017, 09:38:32 PM »
Quote from: BillWinters;829176
Hey cool Nick!  Glad you got something out of our video.  Yeah, like others have said, install ADPro on your awesome A1200.  Do an expert install and just install everything.  a 4GB hard drive is some crazy futuristic stuff man! Just pile it on that baby!

We also made a follow up to that video if you are interested. https://youtu.be/_dHV_Lcbxjo

There is lots of good discussion in the comments to both videos.  I have been having a blast mixing modern gear with the Amiga.  At Vintage Computer Festival East I was taking photos of people with my DSLR, grabbing the image with DCTV, converting to HAM with ADPro, then making a watermark with DPaint.  You can see me doing it here https://youtu.be/HEIesAtmKfM?t=5m54s It was really funand everyone got a kick out of it.

I have a lot more crazy graphics and video projects planned mixing modern stuff with my Amiga so stay tuned!


Hi!

I will do an expert install if this programm on my A1200. Your Youtube video helped me to get started with this transferring my pictures from my camera to my A1200 and displaying them in HAM modus on a CRT monitor. There is something really nostalgia about that! Really like the way pictures are displayed on my old CRT monitor.

I got these four ADF files from you, but is there a way to mount these ADF files as a virtual disk so I would have to use real 3.5" disks?
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2017, 05:45:56 AM »
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I got these four ADF files from you, but is there a way to mount these ADF files as a virtual disk so I would have to use real 3.5" disks?

This will do it.
 

Offline motrucker

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2017, 04:41:03 PM »
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There was an ADPro batch processing add-on. I think it was called ProControl. I've been looking for a copy for ages and haven't been able to find it!

Here's an old discussion on that very subject.....;

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51673

I agree that using AdPro is overkill for viewing graphic files, but, it can easily lead to other endeavors once you get used to the program. I used to use it on an '030 fired A1200 with an old style hard drive.
A2000 GVP 40MHz \'030, 21Mb RAM SD/FF, 2 floppies, internal CD-ROM drive, micromys v3 w/laser mouse
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 02:25:13 PM »
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ADPro and ImageFX were both excellent in their day and usually both programs were in use. ImageFX however became better than ADPro at what it does over the years.

Could be. I never used ImageFX or Adpro, I use Morph+ with Adpro Operators, loaders, savers.

Worked for me, but these days it's a real problem trying to build up a software base to do that.

In the 90s it would have been by far the most expensive method, so not many tried that. Call it a perk of getting promotional software (which were all marked "Promotional Copy - Not for resale" so it's not like I made money from them).
 
 On a price vs performance basis, it just wasn't a viable route. These days though...
« Last Edit: August 10, 2017, 02:28:48 PM by Pat the Cat »
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Offline kolla

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2017, 03:22:00 PM »
So, do you think AdPro/MorphPlus works well on Vampire?
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2017, 04:19:08 PM »
No idea Kolla. It should do, but I don't have a Vampire.
 
 I don't even have any fast RAM in my classic Amigas.
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

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Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2017, 08:55:32 PM »
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This will do it.


Thanks! No sure how this tool works, but it seems a command based tool.
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2017, 11:07:04 PM »
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Thanks! No sure how this tool works, but it seems a command based tool.


DiskImageCtrl can be run as a command-line tool or as a Workbench/GUI program. The readme generally assumes command-line usage and suggests copying it to C:. I put it in SYS:Utilities instead and run it from Workbench. GUI operation needs MUI installed if you don't have it already.

(Incidentally, SYS:Utilities is still in the default command-line path, so it can still easily be run via shell or scripts if necessary.)
 

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Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2017, 06:39:16 PM »
I was just checking my disks for Art Department Pro and this is what I have ...

0933: Converter ABEKAS Raw BMP [ copy ]
0934: Abekas Driver for Art Department Professional ASDG Inc
0935: Art Department Professional Version 2 Patch Disk
0936: Art Department Professional Version 2 Disk 1
0937: Art Department Professional Version 2 Disk 2
0938: Art Department Professional Version 2 Disk 3
0939: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 Program Disk One
0940: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 Program Disk Two
0941: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 Program Disk Three
0940: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 D03 [ copy ]
1556: AdPro-Macros Spare ADF.Rexx [ copy ]
4334: Macro System VLab Software v4.0 includes AdPro2 Loader
12191: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Program Disk 1 [ boxed ]
12192: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Program Disk 2 [ boxed ]
12193: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Program Disk 3 [ boxed ]
12194: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Patch Disk 1 [ boxed ]
12195: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Patch Disk 2 [ boxed ]
12196: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Tutorial Disk [ boxed ]

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Basic installation of Art Department Professional
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 24, 2017, 10:02:30 AM »
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I was just checking my disks for Art Department Pro and this is what I have ...

0933: Converter ABEKAS Raw BMP [ copy ]
0934: Abekas Driver for Art Department Professional ASDG Inc
0935: Art Department Professional Version 2 Patch Disk
0936: Art Department Professional Version 2 Disk 1
0937: Art Department Professional Version 2 Disk 2
0938: Art Department Professional Version 2 Disk 3
0939: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 Program Disk One
0940: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 Program Disk Two
0941: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 Program Disk Three
0940: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 D03 [ copy ]
1556: AdPro-Macros Spare ADF.Rexx [ copy ]
4334: Macro System VLab Software v4.0 includes AdPro2 Loader
12191: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Program Disk 1 [ boxed ]
12192: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Program Disk 2 [ boxed ]
12193: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Program Disk 3 [ boxed ]
12194: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Patch Disk 1 [ boxed ]
12195: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Patch Disk 2 [ boxed ]
12196: Art Department Professional Version 2.5 ASDG Tutorial Disk [ boxed ]

No Morph operator or FRED then. Easy enough to slot into the correct drawer.

Oh, yeah, I checked, apparently I DID do a load of laundry for you and a bunch of other people... still dealing with the aftereffects. In between my unusual lifestyle choices. That odd blend of tonnes of dirty clothing turned clean certainly affected me.

Scuzz even has a Wiki entry...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuzz
« Last Edit: August 24, 2017, 10:06:01 AM by Pat the Cat »
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

A1200, Vanilla, Surf Squirrel, SD Card, KS 3.0/3.z, PCMCIA dev
A500, Vanilla, A570, Rev 5, KS 1.2/1.3 Testbench system
Rasp Pi, UAE4ARM, 3D laser scanner, experimental, hoping for AmigaOS4Arm, based on Watterott Fabscan Pi