New guy with questions!

[QuikSanz]

@ir0n,

Timberwolf is a very old port and needs updating, don't hold your breath. Try OWB or Netsurf.

[Iggy]

@ir0n,

Timberwolf is a very old port and needs updating, don't hold your breath. Try OWB or Netsurf.

Yep, OWB is available for all NG flavors.
I make use of it all the time.

And its ability to spoof other devices can come in handy (for some reason, some sites that don't allow you to force an html5 rendering will default to html5 if they think you are using an iPad, which OWB can pretend it is).

[guest20738]

Interesting. Does owb have extension support?  Also this mac pro has a quadro in it, all of them did. Which is the best card to slap in these? I've read the x800 xt is, but That seems awful low to watch videos!

Thank you.

[pVC]

Also this mac pro has a quadro in it, all of them did. Which is the best card to slap in these?

Hmmm.. for what use? Mac Pros aren't supported by any amigaish operating system.

I've read the x800 xt is, but That seems awful low to watch videos!

"Low to watch videos", what do you mean? Videos don't exactly require that much from a graphics card... or maybe if you mean hardware decoding capabilities, but none of amigaish systems support those. So in practise it doesn't matter which card you have.. until it supports overlay which makes video scaling fast. So, for G5 machines something like Radeon 9600 is still as fine as the more newer/powerful cards. It's more like if you want 3D stuff run faster with expense of power consumption, then you might consider X800XT etc.

[guest20738]

Hmmm.. for what use? Mac Pros aren't supported by any amigaish operating system.


"Low to watch videos", what do you mean? Videos don't exactly require that much from a graphics card... or maybe if you mean hardware decoding capabilities, but none of amigaish systems support those. So in practise it doesn't matter which card you have.. until it supports overlay which makes video scaling fast. So, for G5 machines something like Radeon 9600 is still as fine as the more newer/powerful cards. It's more like if you want 3D stuff run faster with expense of power consumption, then you might consider X800XT etc.

Forgive me, I meant powermac. all the ones from the goodwill i visited had quadros in them. No radeons sadly, but they did lower the price! They gave it to me for $30.

And I was mostly talking about higher resolution video playback from mplayer and such. I don't think I'll be doing anything using a ton of 3D, but i'd like to upgrade it as much as possible with supported hardware. From the little research I did the x800 xt would be the best, But Just making sure.

It's this model.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_dual_2.0.html

How ever I don't think it will work it doesn't seem to have AGP slots. I could be wrong I haven't taken it apart or anything yet.

I'm also building a PC from extra parts I have laying around just for winuae to compare them since i've already paid for Amiga OS 4.1 FE.

If that's something you guys would be interested in I could make a video from the view point of someone who is new and just wants to use an amiga type OS and what I think is better personally to get started.

I believe I'm all sorted out now and have a game plan. I'd like to think everyone who helped me. I'll continue to check back here for any extra bits of advice anyone may have. :^)

[Iggy]

Well, MorphOS also supports the use of PC Radeon X1950Pro cards, but that card doesn't display firmware prompts and it incorporates a pcie to agp bridge that slows it down.
I'd stick with the Apple X800XT.

[pVC]

And I was mostly talking about higher resolution video playback from mplayer and such. I don't think I'll be doing anything using a ton of 3D, but i'd like to upgrade it as much as possible with supported hardware. From the little research I did the x800 xt would be the best, But Just making sure.

Higher resolution playback with MPlayer would be fine with lower spec cards too. MorphOS drivers for lower end cards is pretty fine and movie playback is a lot better than for example with OSX or Linux in the same setup. Most work is done by the CPU, but overlay is pretty optimized on MorphOS. I don't think you'll notice much difference between the supported cards with video playback on a such setup.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_dual_2.0.html

How ever I don't think it will work it doesn't seem to have AGP slots. I could be wrong I haven't taken it apart or anything yet.

Yeah that model (11,2) isn't currently supported by MorphOS, support is available for 7,2 and 7,3 models, which are dual processor models, not dual core models.

[Iggy]

Yeah, it would be nice if the PCIe dual and quad core models were supported.
Not only do they have more modern expansion slots, but their DDR2 memory is faster.

But the 2.3, 2.5 and 2.7 GHz AGP models are still pretty damned quick (especially in comparison to the G4 hardware we had before - and particularly in comparison to Tabor).