A1222 For real??

[Vlabguy1]

Is this old news?  I know I have not been keeping up on the "new" Amiga stuff but is this thing really... real?

R.

[nicholas]

Is this old news?  I know I have not been keeping up on the "new" Amiga stuff but is this thing really... real?

R.

I'd rather buy a second hand Mac Mini or PowerBook. I reckon most others who like OS4 but can't afford an X5000 would too.

[SACC-guy]

Is this old news?  I know I have not been keeping up on the "new" Amiga stuff but is this thing really... real?

R.

Yes, it is very real! It has been shown at several shows and online!

BTW, nicholas "reckons" wrong for me and several others.

[nicholas]

Yes, it is very real! It has been shown at several shows and online!

BTW, nicholas "reckons" wrong for me and several others.

We shall see.......

And most > several.

[Rob]

The hardware made it's first appearance back in 2015 but OS4 isn't quite ready yet so it's not on sale yet.

A1222 in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPdr7MaGvLo

[RNSpeed]

I saw it at Amiwest back in 2016. Here's a photo I took

[BozzerBigD]

@RNSpeed

Obviously this board is real and had been seen running at shows so it's fine. However, even Troika's Amy '05 board had a prototype board with pictures!!!

http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46687

... and some photo links still exist!

http://www.webalice.it/fulvio.peruggi/public/Pegasos&MorphOS/Articles/07_PianetaAmiga2006/amy05.jpg

[psxphill]

I'd rather buy a second hand Mac Mini or PowerBook. I reckon most others who like OS4 but can't afford an X5000 would too.

I'd rather an OS4 port for the PS3 than a Mac Mini.

[dooz]

I'd rather buy a second hand Mac Mini or PowerBook. I reckon most others who like OS4 but can't afford an X5000 would too.

Those old Mac computers are very outdated hardware. It cannot match A1222 in any aspect if we go trought hardware specification.

For example:

FrontSideBus:
Mac Mini: 167 MHz
A1222: 400 MHz

Memory subsystem:
Mac Mini: Max 1G 333 MHz DDR SDRAM
A1222: Max 8GB DDR3 800 MHz

Expansion GFX card:
Mac Mini: old limited AGP card
A1222: modern PCI Express 4x with any RadeON cards that has a driver support for AOS4

Disk interface:
Mac Mini: Ultra ATA/100
A1222: SATA  2.6  compliant  controller

Network:
Mac Mini: 1x 10/100 Base-T
A1222: 2x 1000 Base-T

Overall IMHO CPU is better in Mac Mini at the moment since it has Altivec, bigger caches and can range to 1.5 GHz. But CPU in A1222 is a dual core issue in contrast to Mac Mini which has only single core. When AOS4 start to support second core A1222 with P1022 CPU will outperform PowerPC G4 (7447A) CPU in Mac Mini.

However it is really questionable if Mac Mini CPU can be faster than A1222 right now since it has much slower memory, system bus, disc subsystem and in the end bus to graphic card. IMHO it cant right now.

Also you can have only 64 MB GFX RAM on Mac Mini. You can install 2 GB GDDR5 card in A1222. I have Asus R7 250 with 2 GB GDDR5 in my A1222 and it works great.

-Dooz

[dooz]

Some A1222 Tabor motherboard in action on foto with RadeON R7 250 2 GB GDDR5:

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[jj]

Depending on price I see this as a possible purchase.  OS4 on emulation sucks even on powerful hardware.

[pVC]

I'd rather an OS4 port for the PS3 than a Mac Mini.

Do you really think you could cope with 256MB of RAM in desktop use? You might get a browser started, but it'll kill it if you try to open any page nowadays

[Iggy]

I'd rather an OS4 port for the PS3 than a Mac Mini.

Not enough memory.

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However it is really questionable if Mac Mini CPU can be faster than A1222 right now since it has much slower memory, system bus, disc subsystem and in the end bus to graphic card. IMHO it cant right now.

A 1.5 GHz G4 versus the cpu in the A1222?  Tough call, but it probably goes to the G4 (as long as SMP is not a factor).

And in a similar argument, the X5000 can't outperform a PowerMac G5, even though the G5 has slower memory, expansion slots, and hard drives.

Also, both Apple options would cost a small fraction of the Aeon hardware.

The primary advantage of the Aeon boards is that they can be had new.

[BozzerBigD]

@Iggy

Still enough for The Last of Us and Split Second. Arcade racers are a dying breed and Split Second is awesome and full of fun explosions. Why regular racing games are churned out year on year while games like Outrun 2, Split Second and Twisted Metal get left on the shelf I'll never understand. Forza, Project Cars and GT just bore me and F1 games are too stressful. Nothing has beaten The Last of Us for multiplayer or the story on the single player.

Until Spiderman, TLOU 2, Days Gone and Sonic Mania are out there are no good reasons to get a PS4 (Pro). But even then where's the arcade racer?

In regards to the A1222 (rubbish name by the way) it will definitely be better than an old Mac Mini.

[Iggy]

@Iggy

Still enough for The Last of Us and Split Second. Arcade racers are a dying breed and Split Second is awesome and full of fun explosions. Why regular racing games are churned out year on year while games like Outrun 2, Split Second and Twisted Metal get left on the shelf I'll never understand. Forza, Project Cars and GT just bore me and F1 games are too stressful. Nothing has beaten The Last of Us for multiplayer or the story on the single player.

Until Spiderman, TLOU 2, Days Gone and Sonic Mania are out there are no good reasons to get a PS4 (Pro). But even then where's the arcade racer?

In regards to the A1222 (rubbish name by the way) it will definitely be better than an old Mac Mini.

Interesting conclusion about the PS3, as to the A1222, we will just have to wait to see the benchmarks. The primary advantage being discreet graphics.
And you're right, the name sucks.