AmigaOne clones?

[Paul_Gadd]

I wonder what is going to be next from these unfriendly Amiga companies? death threats, comments against family members, email bombs, spam, racist remarks, and other non friendly messages,

You disgust me.

[JoannaK]

@ warface

I don't much care about individual loonies. But when company tries to Hoax me I tend to start looking for alternativies.

In general..  It looks like me that everybody has been hoaxed at least once.. And peoples sides depend on Who did it to them last time.   --- Of  couse some people seem to be so well trained they try their luck again with same company.   :-D  :-D  :-D

[DethKnight]

what is going to be next from these unfriendly Amiga companies? death threats, etc....

maybe send a family member's severed-finger in a ransom note, threaten to send "guido" to break your legs if ya dont give them money???

[Alkemyst]

Strange how MOS supporters come rushing in on a Aone topic.
 
Why should it matter to them about whats happening with the Aone/Aos4.
 
MOS ppl say that the Pegasos is better & that MOS is better.


So they should be happy & not worry about the products that are not as good & that they dont want, Aone/Aos4.

 
The Logic of all the concern is like me Buy Ibrowse 2.2 & saying this is the best browser so far.
Then worry if Ibrowse 1.2 was any good.
 

 
 

[WalkernyRanger]

mips_proc wrote:
Kurt then whats the point of the 'rom' ? ... the Pegasos is idential to the A1 aside from the VIA southbridge... wich isnt some 'closed' spec... Hyperion could make OS4 for Pegasos...

Well I want it to run Halo on my PS2! Microsoft could make it, they have enough  money!  But they want me to buy THEIR hardware!  But I don't want to give them my money, I want to give it to someone else!
 
I am sorry this logic makes no sense to me.


If you want AOS4 then buy an A1 or a classic Amiga w/ PPC.

If you want MOS buy a Pegasus.

If you want a OSX buy a Mac

If you want WIndows XP buy a PC

If you want to play Halo buy an XBOX

It really is this simple

[Billsey]

I just started reading this thread, so please bear with me if I've yet to read something. The baords that run AOS4 don't need to be built around the dongle, they just need to be able to use it. Perhaps the POP marketplace, such as it is, could come up with some sort of "dongle port", including passthrough, so that whatever software company wants to dongle their software can do so without hurting the overall cost of the boards they want to write for. Perhaps the dongles could be USB based, for example.

[Billsey]

@Kronos and Tigger:

Do you really think Apple won't defend their own turf? Unless Apple provides those drivers, it ain't happening without an awful lot of litigation and people going to jail. Linux is a free OS that can be downloaded without cost. Amiga OS is a commercial product that would be in direct competition with Apple on their own hardware.

[Warface]

@Alkemyst:

Oh my, what a disaster, then maybe they are not fanatics. Maybe they'd like to have OS4 exclusively or along with MOS on their machine, be it a Pegasos, a Macintosh, whatever.

Guess that there is no enemy lurking in every post, and MOS fanatics on every corner is not an option to you. Sure, normal people don't buy Pegasos/MOS, every single purchaser must be a MOS/PEG zealot. Pathetic.

[Kronos]

Amiga OS is a commercial product that would be in direct competition with Apple on their own hardware.

 :lol:  :lol:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :lol:  :lol:

Do you really think Apple would care about a few thousand freaks
running an odd OS on their HW ? HW that is sold in 7 digit numbers a year ?

Yes "new world" Power-Macs arev documented and that is why Linux
runs on them (the iMac and Laptops are a bit different).

I don't mind OS4 being tied to one specific piece of HW, but won't
accept all these licence-BS, when it is just used to blame someone
forit, when it is really the lack of resources(finacial and time) preventing it.

[Billsey]

That would be the same mailing list that gave us such important tidbits as "this isnt an MAI board"

See below, please.

From the MAI Home Page:

Mai Logic Incorporated is a total solution IC system design house devoted to customer satisfaction.

Mai Logic is focused on revolutionary chipset architecturing that delivers high-performance solutions to enable the most demanding applications. It supports the current line of PowerPC as well as next generation microprocessors.

By teaming with its strategic partners, Mai Logic has developed complete system design capabilities, including boards, firmware, device drivers, OS, and applications. Mai Logic's solid engineering job guarantees its end-to-end product offering conformable to industry standards and environments.

As one of few design houses combining million-gate-count pure logic with cutting-edge “non-PC” system solutions, Mai Logic provides technologies serving traditional RISC microprocessor based applications and other emerging markets with great flexibility for customization.

they said it's not an MAI board because---get this, please---it's not an MAI board.

MAI makes IC chips and partners with companies that make boards.

[Tigger]

Billsey wrote:
@Kronos and Tigger:

Do you really think Apple won't defend their own turf? Unless Apple provides those drivers, it ain't happening without an awful lot of litigation and people going to jail. Linux is a free OS that can be downloaded without cost. Amiga OS is a commercial product that would be in direct competition with Apple on their own hardware.

The very same Terra Soft company we are talking about who is the big distributer of the Teron boards from MAI, also ships its Yellow Dog Linux (PPC linux) on Apple computers, in fact they are an Apple OEM and the Macs they ship have full Apple warranty etc.   In fact they will even load Mac on Linux on the machine if you want them too.  Apple is a hardware company really, if they can ship hardware thats great to them, they'd love another OS to run on their hardware at this point.  In answer to your other dongle question.  The issue is that the OS isnt coded to check for a USB dongle which would have been fine.   Instead its looking for a Rom on a motherboard, noone is going to make special boards (I'm sure you've seen the comment from the Barbie guys), we cant even use the same board as Eyetech is supplying, because they are soldering a new Boot Rom to the motherboard.   If the OS had a USB dongle instead we'd have hardware options, we dont now, and thats an issue.  If Eyetech runs into money trouble, supply problems, etc we have no Amigas, thats a crazy situation for Amiga Inc as a software company to allow itself to be in, and almost equally crazy for Hyperion who gets paid on software unit sales.
      -Tig

Well I want it to run Halo on my PS2! Microsoft could make it, they have enough money! But they want me to buy THEIR hardware!

bad example... this isnt one console architecture to another... (wich BTW is very hard to port Xbox games to PS2)..... this is an OS...and the A1 isnt their hardware...its eyetechs...it would be great to see OS4 run on pegasos.

[Tigger]

Billsey wrote:

That would be the same mailing list that gave us such important tidbits as "this isnt an MAI board"

they said it's not an MAI board because---get this, please---it's not an MAI board.

MAI makes IC chips and partners with companies that make boards.

Billsey,
I'm sorry, this has been beat into the ground so hard everyone should have a clue by now.  The board is MAI's, here look:

Eyetech to distribute MAI boards

These are the same boards TerraSoft is distributing, its the same board MAI showed to 1000's at Linuxworld in September.   Its the same board that all the Linux sites are reviewing.   They are MAI's boards, being manufactured by a subsidiary of Sanmina-SCI and then shipped out.    I'm getting really tired of this disinformation about the board being spread around.
     -Tig

[WalkernyRanger]

mips_proc wrote:

Well I want it to run Halo on my PS2! Microsoft could make it, they have enough money! But they want me to buy THEIR hardware!

bad example... this isnt one console architecture to another... (wich BTW is very hard to port Xbox games to PS2)..... this is an OS...and the A1 isnt their hardware...its eyetechs...it would be great to see OS4 run on pegasos.

It is not a bad example.  The point is not how much work it would take to port Halo to PS2 or OS4 to Pegasus.  The point is they have the right to drive their hardware sales with their own software.  If I could run Halo on PS2, then I wouldn't buy an Xbox to play it.  The same goes for the A1.  If I can run OS4 on any hardware, why would I buy an A1?  Amiga is only doing the same exact thing every other hardware company is doing.  They are simply trying to sell hardware.  Why is it not wrong that OSX only works on Macs.  Apple could sell more software if I could run it on my A1.  Or that Sony buys exclusive rights to the GTA series, so it won't appear on an Xbox?  Rockstar could sell a lot more copies if it werte available on Xbox and Gamecube.  But Sony wants to sell hardware so they buy exclusive rights to a game that will make people buy their system.  

If you want to use OS4, buy an AmigaOne or upgrade your current Amiga.  

the major differance is microsoft makes the Xbox... owns Halo...and in the console market they dont stand the loose money by not porting halo to the PS2(wich is pretty incapable of playing halo(a game with new features) properly on such obselete 3D hardware)..

OS4 is made by hyperion... IP owned by A.inc...running on a board made by MAI and marketed by eyetech... its not like they are 'one' company and want to keep 'their' produce in house...

so I consider it a bad example...

furthermore the point of OS4 was never(and still isnt in words at least) to keep OS4 on eyetech only boards.... they arent supposed to care to force you to buy A1's to run OS4....

Amiga is only doing the same exact thing every other hardware company is doing. They are simply trying to sell hardware

but how does that make sense? from professed 'software' company? trying to sell hardware....eyetech is trying to sell hardware... hyperion is a software company...and A.inc is a software/IP company... why should they market the OS only on A1's for eyetech's benefit? do they get more money this way?...

[Rogue]

Paul_Gadd wrote:
Face facts the TeronONE board and OS4 is a SCAM to force Amiga zealots to buy already out of date machines.

With crap like this you are insulting me and all the people that put their time into OS 4. Why don't you just shut up?