AmigaOne clones?

[Troels_E]

The reason AI doesn't see it has to be because they needed someone to develop the board (and in fairness to eyetech it was developed), with a view to them getting a 100% market share for a good period of time.. (how long is a piece of string)... I think thats why the Peg hasnt been licenced, or it could be because Bill Bluck is a tool... who knows..

Not true. Other companies (IF there where any besides genesi?) are welcome to get their PPC boards tested as compatible and license the AmigaOne name.

Bplan wasn't interested in supplying Hyperion with the needed technical details or a developer board and didn't want to sign the contract with Amiga. They could have used a "dongle" onboard like the A1 OR used a little USB dongle if they wanted OS4.

I really don't see why people can't understand that Hyperion have to take every step possible against piracy. Our userbase is VERY small and they have to ensure a certain revenue.

[Skyraker]

No, you miss the point, the dongle in itself is not a bad idea, just dont expect to see any companies cloning until eyetech has had it's fill....

AI will not licence anyone else until their 'partner' is satisfied... should be one hell of an orgasm.

[Alkemyst]

by neofree on 2002/12/30 21:02:27

Hey I signed the petition! Agree the hardware should just be POP like it says!

OK for thoses who sign things with out undserstanding what they are signing
& for thoes who dont understand that there are no POP PPC mobos out there for us to buy at the moment.

Understand this.

The Aone is not s pop mobo
THe Pegasos is not a pop mobo
The Mac is not a pop mobo.

There is no set standard like there is on the x86 mobo.

Every PPC mobo is different THERE IS NO STANDARD SET YET.

So even with out the dongle Aos4 will not just run on every PPC mobo.

A HAL will have to be coded for each type of PPC mobo that comes to market.

And for that you will need the mobo & the hardware docs to do that.

[Alkemyst]

by Skyraker on 2002/12/30 22:39:11

No, you miss the point, the dongle in itself is not a bad idea, just dont expect to see any companies cloning until eyetech has had it's fill....

AI will not licence anyone else until their 'partner' is satisfied... should be one hell of an orgasm.

Now thats what a call FUD.

What info have you been reading to come to that conclusion.


When & IF a PPC mobo maker offers up a mobo to get a Amiga Cert, that does not have its own competing clone of AmigaOS & then Amiga.inc turns them down then.
i would say you may have a point. but that has not happened.

[Skyraker]

@Alkemyst


It's not FUD, it's just my opinion, i have no insider knowledge or any special powers like that, just the way i see it.... this is a forum after all...

I am A1 pro as anyone who know's me will (reluctantly) testify....

I just don't think you'll see any clones until Eyetech has covered their outlay.... tbh do you blame them?

Sky.

[Alkemyst]

It's not FUD, it's just my opinion,

Sorry but i just cant see where you stated that it was just your opinion.


Besides there are no other ppc mobo makers out there anyway so its moot point to make.
there are no clones cos there are no clone makers in the first place.
so the amiga Cert has no effect.

[Skyraker]

@alkemyst

The whole bloody thing was my opinion....


non of it is based on fact , just my interpretation of events..... for ####s sake... why do i bother with teenagers

[Alkemyst]

The whole bloody thing was my opinion....


non of it is based on fact , just my interpretation of events..... for ####s sake... why do i bother with teenagers

You should know by now that things are most likely to be taken as fact un less clearly stated as an opinion.


The fact you just started calling me names implys your the younger.

[JoannaK]

(I know this may sound quite negative, but)
Personally.. I see no point on trying to clone A-one. There is nothing special in it. Ok technically It can run OS4 some day but until that happens it's yet another Linux Box.

And even after long waiting OS4 appears, having it to your clone would be unlikely due these licensing and protection deals. So why bother?  :-?

[Troels_E]

@Skyraker
Please don't state things as if they are facts and not just your opinion. You are wrong btw.

@JoannaK

(I know this may sound quite negative, but)
Personally.. I see no point on trying to clone A-one. There is nothing special in it. Ok technically It can run OS4 some day but until that happens it's yet another Linux Box.

Well, you do sound negative (very often :-) ) but I must admit you're quite right (this time). Unless you can take the PPC boards and change it for the better or cheaper, theres no need to bother.

And even after long waiting OS4 appears, having it to your clone would be unlikely due these licensing and protection deals. So why bother?".

Well if you made a clone why not get it certified? It's not like this "dongle" would cost a lot to add. It might even be added to the cost of OS4 (just a thought) and not to the hardware.

No one knows, cos no one have bothered to contact Amiga on that matter.

Happy new year to all of you

[Elektro]

Well if you go and listen to Redhouse's speech at Woase skyraker's oppinion becomes quite walid.

[Paul_Gadd]

Say anything negative about any pathetic amiga company Elbox, Amiga inc, Eyetech, etc and your straight away chopped down by people who clearly WILL defend anything that Amiga companies do (GOOD OR BAD) to make them sound like they are some sort of "I love Amiga" hippy,

For ####s sakes people look at my avatar and now try and defend your beloved hero`s,  people clearly should not be defending thieves.

[Troels_E]

What did Mr. Redhouse say at WOASE?

Both Hyperion and Amiga have always stated the opposite of what Skyraker is stating (as a fact).

Hyperion have even said that a dealer could buy a quantity of pegasos's and sign the license with Amiga to get OS4 to run on these. Offcourse hyperion would still need technical details of the hardware.

Now where does that fit in with Skyrakers conspiracy theory?

[Troels_E]

Say anything negative about any pathetic amiga company Elbox, Amiga inc, Eyetech, etc and your straight away chopped down by people who clearly WILL defend anything that Amiga companies do (GOOD OR BAD) to make them sound like they are some sort of "I love Amiga" hippy,

Well thats how this community have become. Everything is either Black or white, theres no greyzones anymore.
I believe every company leftin our market have made some (big) mistakes.
I don't agree with all of their directions but I know that no-one will benefit if I just moan about it constantly like you do! No-one will benefit from that, not even my-self.

I don't know if Eyetech have gotten special treatment by Amiga Inc, but you should feel free to prove it.

Did look at your avatar, it's copyrighted material. Thief....

[zacman]

>I really don't see why people can't understand that
>Hyperion have to take every step possible against
>piracy

Seriously, do you *really* think that OS4 would run
(technically) on any other mainboard (besides the
AmigaOne) if there was not such a dongle? And why
are the versions for BlizzPPC or CybPPC not
dongled?

[Paul_Gadd]

Did look at your avatar, it's copyrighted material. Thief....

Then please feel free to email the following and report me, while you are at it ask them where the hell are the T shirts and peoples coupons,

bill@amiga.com
fleecy@amiga.com
randy@amiga.com
vince@amiga.com
gary@amiga.com
dean@amiga.com
gordon@amiga.com
tarah@amiga.com