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Offline SACC-guy

Re: A sad day
« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2017, 03:08:08 AM »
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The UK vs USA thing.  
2)    I personally, as an American, value our close relationship as countries and Allies :-).  We, Americans, and the British Commonwealth nations (canada-uk-nz-australia) do share in a common past and common culture.

Enough of the touchy feeling stuff

Yes the whole UK-GB-England thing is very confusing to us on this side of the pond.  I would guess to say that the average American does not know the difference between the three.  Ie if England-Wales-Scotland-Northern Ireland are one country, why do they have separate world cup teams.  It would be like the US having 50 different teams.

I remember as a kid wondering why the British union jack looked different during the American Revolutionary War than it does today, (ie missing a half of a red cross).
and where is the Welsh flag in the British union jack?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Jack

Further confusing the issue was the use of the term Great Britain at the Olympics (ie the British Isles minus Ireland).
I think the refrences were mis read and the kidding around got out of hand...sorry
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #75 on: May 31, 2017, 03:13:16 AM »
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Have you got any sense of community or belonging or being part of something bigger than just you and your nuclear family. People who live in Britain are all British and can all be proud of British achievements. If you can't see that I feel sorry for you.


I'll take that as a no then and assume that you haven't achieved anything to be proud of so feel the need to attach yourself to the individual achievements of others in order to feel better about your own lack of achievements.

I consider myself English not British BTW.
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #76 on: May 31, 2017, 03:13:41 AM »
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Yes the whole UK-GB-England thing is very confusing to us on this side  of the pond.  I would guess to say that the average American does not  know the difference between the three.  Ie if  England-Wales-Scotland-Northern Ireland are one country, why do they  have separate world cup teams.  It would be like the US having 50  different teams.
Exactly because we are unique nations  with different racial make ups. The Scottish, Welsh and Irish are  primarily from Celtic ancestry while the English are Anglo-Saxon. They  each speak different languages though English is now the common  language. They have different traditions and yet we have a common  history going back hundreds of years.

Yes, Wales isn't directly  represented on the Union Flag and yes the term Great Britain is used for  the Olympics when it is still technically the United Kingdom of Great  Britain and Northern Ireland.

We have seperate teams because we  like competing against each other. We feel passionately about our  difference as well as our commonality with our Westminster Parliament, armed  forces and governance systems. The 50 U.S. states I'd argue are not quite  different enough either in their racial make up, traditions or heritage  to warrant similar passions or interstate rivalries. I guess it would have been like having four  separate unions made up of French, Dutch, English and Spanish settlers  all living as separate states in northern America for a hundred years before uniting into a  four 'state' United States. Does that make more sense?
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #77 on: May 31, 2017, 03:14:04 AM »
WTF is going on here?
 

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Re: A sad day
« Reply #78 on: May 31, 2017, 03:18:25 AM »
@nicholas

A conflicted Pakistani/Englishman by the look of your logo. Again I'm sad you can't rejoice in the success of the English football team (not that success has come their way in over half a century:-)) or the Olympic team or even the fact that we (the United Kingdom) reclaimed our sovereignty from an unelected quango called the European Commission.
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #79 on: May 31, 2017, 03:19:23 AM »
I read a lot on international boards and everything is very civil and mostly cordial.
Then there is that nasty little undercurrent of tribal and nationalist resentment just waiting to poke it's head out.

I know from what I read here some of the comments were in good fun, but some should know better.
 

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Re: A sad day
« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2017, 03:20:36 AM »
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We're sick of talking about a rogue US Amiga reseller and are now talking about nationalism/patriotism and the US/UK 'special' relationship! It's far more fun though I should go to bed as I'm on the Welsh/Scottish/N. Irish and English side of the pond :-)
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #81 on: May 31, 2017, 03:33:07 AM »
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We're sick of talking about a rogue US Amiga reseller and are now talking about nationalism/patriotism and the US/UK 'special' relationship! It's far more fun though I should go to bed as I'm on the Welsh/Scottish/N. Irish and English side of the pond :-)


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Re: A sad day
« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2017, 03:35:21 AM »
I'm English but I now live Stateside and the one thing I miss are the Welsh and Irish.  Worked in both Wales and to a lesser extent Ireland. Two beautiful countries with great people and not so great weather.
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2017, 03:36:17 AM »
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WTF is going on here?


The great British tradition of bantering. :)
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #84 on: May 31, 2017, 03:39:57 AM »
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@nicholas

A conflicted Pakistani/Englishman by the look of your logo. Again I'm sad you can't rejoice in the success of the English football team (not that success has come their way in over half a century:-)) or the Olympic team or even the fact that we (the United Kingdom) reclaimed our sovereignty from an unelected quango called the European Commission.


No idea where you've got Pakistani from but then again to a Little Englander "all Muslims are Pakis" eh? ;)

I'll celebrate when we get rid of our unelected Prime Minister for sure and do a double celebration if/when we get rid of that benefit scrounging family that lord it over us too. ;)
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2017, 04:46:29 AM »
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WTF is going on here?


What's going on here is proof many so-called Amigan's are two plums short of a pie.

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Re: A sad day
« Reply #86 on: May 31, 2017, 05:00:53 AM »
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What's going on here is proof many so-called Amigan's are two plums short of a pie.

TJ


British self-deprecating humour and sarcasm (otherwise known as bantering or "piss taking") is a common shared trait of the four countries that make up this island nation (and most of the former colonies barring the USA tbh).

We take the piss out of each other constantly but Johnny Foreigner doesn't often get it.
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #87 on: May 31, 2017, 10:43:19 AM »
Okay, please stop this now.
 

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Re: A sad day
« Reply #88 on: May 31, 2017, 12:23:32 PM »
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@nicholas

A conflicted Pakistani/Englishman by the look of your logo. Again I'm sad you can't rejoice in the success of the English football team (not that success has come their way in over half a century:-)) or the Olympic team or even the fact that we (the United Kingdom) reclaimed our sovereignty from an unelected quango called the European Commission.

To put it nicely.  You sir are a un-educated tit
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Re: A sad day
« Reply #89 from previous page: May 31, 2017, 12:26:57 PM »
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No idea where you've got Pakistani from but then again to a Little Englander "all Muslims are Pakis" eh? ;)

I'll celebrate when we get rid of our unelected Prime Minister for sure and do a double celebration if/when we get rid of that benefit scrounging family that lord it over us too. ;)
Sorry it's an Iranian flag isn't it? My bad. I suppose the Engli-stan bit threw me off and I thought of Paki-stan. Maybe saying your from Eran (England / Iran) would be more accurate? ;-)

And also we are not voting for a Prime Minister in the General Election (we aren't American as already discussed) we are voting for an MP to represent us in Parliament. I don't think Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn are fit to be our Prime Minister and I question Theresa May's reasons for calling it early. It won't change my voting pattern however as I have a good MP who has done a good job and has also stood up for marriage being between a man and woman in spite of the rabid liberal media trying to outlaw such opinions. If she can stand against peer pressure and stick to some moral convictions she's the MP my area needs irrespective of her party allegiance.
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