NG X5000 Advice

[nicholas]

Slow is relative. Compared to my 8-core Ryzen 1800X (3.6 GHz base, 4.1 GHz turbo), which cost about €700 for the motherboard+CPU, the X5000's dual-core CPU (one usable core in AmigaOS) at 2 GHz is slow by any metric. It's perhaps as powerful as the Snapdragon SOC in my phone.

Still, it's the fastest "Amiga" in the world, so by that definition it can't be slow, and it certainly should be faster than the SAM 460 that came out 7 years ago. So if you really want the fastest AmigaOS 4 machine available, this is it.

WinUAE on your Ryzen will be faster than an X5000

[paul1981]

And here's me struggling with my 2007 Intel Celeron M 1.6 GHz laptop. I maxed out the RAM last year to 2GB from 1GB! This is the machine I use every day! It does the job, just. The internet gets heavier each year though so it'll soon be time for an adblocker! Youtube videos seem to get harder to decode as well.
I bet an X5000 would seem heavenly fast compared to what I'm used to!

[djomre]

Slow is relative.

So is "fast".  It's all perception.  

[nicholas]

And here's me struggling with my 2007 Intel Celeron M 1.6 GHz laptop. I maxed out the RAM last year to 2GB from 1GB! This is the machine I use every day! It does the job, just. The internet gets heavier each year though so it'll soon be time for an adblocker! Youtube videos seem to get harder to decode as well.
I bet an X5000 would seem heavenly fast compared to what I'm used to!

YouTube gives you VP8/9 encoded videos by default, if you install h264ify add-on for Firefox/Chrome it'll force YouTube to stream h264 encoded videos which your video card should be able to play with it's hardware decoder.

Install ublock origin for your sanity/security too

[nicholas]

So is "fast".  It's all perception.  

Faster isn't subjective though.

[Iggy]

WinUAE on your Ryzen will be faster than an X5000

Not running OS4, that would be a close call, with better graphics support on the X5000.
And, when released, the X5000 will be able to run MorphOS, UAE...nope.

[paul1981]

YouTube gives you VP8/9 encoded videos by default, if you install h264ify add-on for Firefox/Chrome it'll force YouTube to stream h264 encoded videos which your video card should be able to play with it's hardware decoder.

Install ublock origin for your sanity/security too

Thanks, i'll look into that. I use Vivaldi but I think it takes Chrome ad-ons so that should be fine.

[klx300r]

I bought my X1000 because AmigaOS has always been my favourite and because I wanted to fully support Trevor/ A-Eon to get his and my dream back on track after having to wait so long for new hardware for my favourite OS!
I enjoyed beta testing for it, putting the system together, customizing my case, and of course messing with workbench endlessly, helping troubleshoot issues with other amiga users/ developers etc etc.  Basically I'm an amigan and always will be so the X1000 was made for me and I'm sure X5000 users would feel the same.
If you expect to have a 'perfect & hack free' computer buy a tablet or smart phone nowadays or any cheap PC off the computer store shelf but if you don't mind getting your elbows dirty & are a bit 'off center' & actually enjoy it then well welcome home :hammer:

[nicholas]

Thanks, i'll look into that. I use Vivaldi but I think it takes Chrome ad-ons so that should be fine.

I use it with no problems under Vivaldi.

[wlemonds]

I know that it only has USB 2.0 ports but can you use external cd/dvd drives. If so, are they bootable?

[Iggy]

WinUAE on your Ryzen will be faster than an X5000

See above...again.
AND it will be in a Windows environment, not an Amigan environment.

[outrun1978]

@wlemonds

DVD drives are connected via one of the 2 on board SATA ports on the X5000 so they work straight away once the machine is switched on.  The other sata port will be used by either an internal SSD drive or a physical hard drive.  Plenty of ports too on the motherboard if you need to add a SATA controller for anything else you wish to add internally.

via the external USB ports (there are 6 in total) you can plug in all sorts of detachable devices such as external hard drives, USB memory stick, Memory card readers, usb hubs, joysticks and joypads etc.....  You can also plug in your phone and have it charge up or transfer photos across using the Photo transfer protocol.

Devices which are USB3.0 like my Sandisk multicard reader will also work as it is backwards compatible.

@paul1981

Yes the X5000 is quick,   Using Odyssey on this machine feels like a completely different browser  and am pleased to report from the games I have tested out so far in E-UAE i am pleased to report that  it works with no slow-down or any stuttering sound compared to the Sam460.  Tried this with R-Type 2,  Lotus 3, Slam Tilt AGA.   Snes 9x works brilliant, have discovered the delight that is Dirt Race FX which works perfectly with no frameskip ;-)

I know it is an expensive machine, but if you are seriously thinking about it, my advice is save up your pennies :-)

[wlemonds]

@wlemonds

DVD drives are connected via one of the 2 on board SATA ports on the X5000 so they work straight away once the machine is switched on.  The other sata port will be used by either an internal SSD drive or a physical hard drive.  Plenty of ports too on the motherboard if you need to add a SATA controller for anything else you wish to add internally.

via the external USB ports (there are 6 in total) you can plug in all sorts of detachable devices such as external hard drives, USB memory stick, Memory card readers, usb hubs, joysticks and joypads etc.....  You can also plug in your phone and have it charge up or transfer photos across using the Photo transfer protocol.

Devices which are USB3.0 like my Sandisk multicard reader will also work as it is backwards compatible.

Yea I know you can hook them up to the SATA, but, do they work from USB? Reason I ask is I'm looking at getting a case that doesn't have bays on the front for the X5000 motherboard. Since I wouldn't be using the CD/DVD hardly at all I was looking at the external option for when I do.

[Iggy]

@...@paul1981

Yes the X5000 is quick,   Using Odyssey on this machine feels like a completely different browser

Or a completely different machine, running Odyssey on an X5000 is fast, its like run it on a Powermac G5 (while spending so much more money. :hammer:

Of course, I'm still buying one, as its the only way to getting this kind of responsiveness under OS4.
Of course you could wait for Tabor, spend less, and not get this. :laugh1:

[outrun1978]

@wlemonds   well my external 1 TB hard drive works via the  USB ports without any issue if that is any help so i am guessing any usb based CD/DVD drives would do the same :-)

[outrun1978]

Or a completely different machine, running Odyssey on an X5000 is fast, its like run it on a Powermac G5 (while spending so much more money. :hammer:



Yea but that is old hardware which will probably conk out in a few years time....besides its an Apple product and i don't really do the Church of Scientology/Cupertino Cult ;-)