NG X5000 Advice

[djomre]

After checking prices for classic systems, I'm considering going with NG.  Either way, it's some serious coin for a hobby.  Anyone who owns an X5000 system, what are you thoughts?  Good/Bad?  Worth the money?   Any feedback appreciated.  Thanks!

[eliyahu]

@djomre

i love my X5000, but if you're new to NG, i'd highly recommend you try AOS4 via UAE first, even though it is terribly slow in comparison, just to make sure you like it. the X5000 is not cheap, but for me, it's massively worth it. i can run all the 68K software i love, new software like sketchblock or digital universe; play HD videos and stream internet radio; and play great games like huenison and MACE.

it's not perfect. i would have preferred support for USB3 -- although that's more an issue with AOS4 than the X5000 itself. and there's no dual video-card support at the moment, so i can't drive more than one display. i'd also like to have more than one x16 PCI-e slot. all that said, though, the performance is awesome. the expansion options are great. and i love AOS4 and the native and 68K software that i can run on it. so i'd say if you have the spare cash, you'll love it.

any other X5K owners wanna chime in here?

-- eliyahu

[broadblues]

MY X1k and My SAM are well worth it, I don't have an x5k but can't imageine it wouldn't be similar.

Losts of fun, you have to like exploring and find your own ways to do stuff.

[amigasociety]

I am an X5000 owner.  Also owned the X1K in the day but sold that and then missed running AmigaOS so much when the X5K came out, I did the deed again.

They are fun.  Mind you things we take for granted like easy and fast web browsing that just works on popular websites and watching videos within the browser with ease, is just not up to par as what you will find on Windows or Mac or Linux boxes.

So if you come into this as you want to learn Amiga OS and tinker and take updates as they come, months or years later after we on Mac or Windows do with ease, then the experience will be fun.

I enjoy IRC chat so use my X5K mostly daily, chat on IRC, basic web surfing, watch some lower rez movies, listen to a little music... all fun for me with Amiga.

Real work for business I do on linux or Mac as it is very internet driven and just works on my linux and Macs where with Odyssey in Amiga OS, not so much.

TJ

[djomre]

..you have to like exploring and find your own ways to do stuff.

That's what I like about Amigas and Amigans.  We're resourceful.  

[SACC-guy]

I saved my money and bought my X5000..

Because, i was so tired of the battery issues, old caps and 20/30 year old problems.
Don't get me wrong, I still love my classics!

But brand new, everything.. PCI-e video card Radeon, new ddr3 memory
USB 2 works great, you can even boot from usb!

don't forget SATA, there's more...

[amigasociety]

After checking prices for classic systems, I'm considering going with NG.  Either way, it's some serious coin for a hobby.  Anyone who owns an X5000 system, what are you thoughts?  Good/Bad?  Worth the money?   Any feedback appreciated.  Thanks!

Where are you located?

TJ

[djomre]

Where are you located?

TJ

Near St. Louis.

[amigasociety]

Near St. Louis.

Ah cool.

Well then our USA dealer is a pleasure to work with.

http://www.amigaonthelake.com

TJ

[djomre]

Ah cool.

Well then our USA dealer is a pleasure to work with.

www.amigaonthelake.com

TJ

Yep, sent them a message asking if I could check out an X5000 system.  I'm going to be in NY on business next week.

[slygon]

I agree with everyone's comments.  I bought an X5000 as well... it arrived in January.  I am having a blast with it.  Learning new things, playing with the new and old software....

It is difficult to use it as a primary machine, as AmigaSociety stated... the browser is OK, but not great, and several things don't work quite right.... but the Amiga specific stuff works fine!

-Slygon

[outrun1978]

I am writing this post as I am awaiting Amazon to deliver the final components of what will be my new X5000 system having received a brand new motherboard earlier in the week, so I guess I will be able to tell you what I think a little later on, but judging what others have posted, I think perhaps you should take the plunge ;-)


I own a current NG machine also in an Amigaone500 based on the Sam 460cr board.  Its a nice machine, but I wanted something a lot more powerful..

People like to moan about the cost of the X5000 as a system but the motherboard and components have just cost me shy of £1650.00 ( I am recycling the Radeon 7750 card from my Amigaone500 machine  which is the only thing I have scrimped on as ive not had it for long)

To put this into comparison £1650 would have been the figure to add the following to my 20 year old Amiga1200 which would have left me with a system would have been less powerful than my Sam 460 and brought the A1200 to semi modern standards:

Rare Cyberstorm PPC card when you can find them on EBay £600+
Indivision dvi-I output  £129
Spider II USB  £60
Mediator Busboard £270
A1200 Tower....based on Elbox's current upcoming offering £300
Graphics card £70-100
recapping of A1200 motherboard £30-50
replacement of existing yellow keyboard and case  £100

I simply did the maths and decided to get the X5000 and support future development.

Now hurry up Amazon so I can start putting the bits together :-)

[Acill]

I've thought about getting one, and here is my take on it and why I have still put a pause on getting one.

The hardware is nothing special, is more or less just standard hardware (and out of date before it was even sold) that has some fancy firmware allowing OS4.1 to run on it.

The software is far from done and doesnt even take advantage of the existing hardware. This was the same on all the past models of the NG systems as well so I dont expect it to catch up on this model as well before the next, if a next is even made or starting to be introduced.

Past hardware is totally abandoned now from the manufacturers.  You cant get a single thing for them any longer, including the massively expensive X1000 machines. This single factor alone is what scares the hell out of me. I just cant spend that kind of money on hardware that has so little available for it over my classic systems to justify the expense, no matter how nice it is.

I truly want to see the NG systems take off, but until the speed of development and driver support for the currently available hardware gets up to speed I just cant bring myself to take the plunge.

[smf]

I have one X5000 and it's the best allround amiga i have but i would highly recomend you to have atleast one classic available too, they are both needed for the best experience
I do some emulation with uae on it but sometimes it's very satisfying to fire up one standard A500 and have a go, or a vampire expanded.. or 030 or 060 etc .

But if i could only have one i guess i would keep the X5000.

[djomre]

Past hardware is totally abandoned now from the manufacturers. You cant get a single thing for them any longer, including the massively expensive X1000 machines. This single factor alone is what scares the hell out of me

That might be a deciding factor for me.  Planned obsolesence is part of the game in the x86 world, but the stakes aren't as high.