Several PPC cards on Amibench

[odin]

I just won an auction on EBay by kralle900. It's getting weird:
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Rekeninghouder: Rene Nandke
Bankrekeningnummer: XXXXXXXX
ID-code bank: XXXXXXXXX
Naam bank: Postbank München
De verkoper zegt:
Kontoinhaber und ebay-Mitgliedsname sind nicht identisch - aber das ist in Ordnung.
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The last bit says that the EBay-membername and the accountholder's names are different. And that it is okay...

I requested the contact details of 'kralle900' from EBay, and that's our Mr. Toth:


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Gebruikersnaam:    kralle900
Naam:    Karoly Tóth
Bedrijf:    
Plaats:   Albstadt
Adres:  
Land:   Deutschland
Postcode:   72461
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No phone number or address given.....

:-?

[JaXanim]

@odin

This is clearly one of Bernd Binder's associates in this 'Amiga Club' they run from the address we sent our monies to.

Maybe this is the 'Son of Tibor Toth' (!) (?)

Anyway, when you arrange payment, there should be a direct connection via Mr Toth's email. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the 'TTAmig@******' address used in the AmiBench ad.

Please would you post any such detail as appropriate and PM me and others involved with the address, etc?

I have tried to contact 'Kralle900' via Ebay's system, but never had a reply. Maybe this is another string to follow.

Cheers and thanks,

JaX

[crown]

Flowman wrote:
Sorry for my post.. think im on drugs today.. but sweden post is diffrent i think.. cuz i never got any reciept when i sent packages..

But the guy on the phone was our guy.. cuz he know about all stuff.

You always get a reciept when you send packages in Sweden, and you can track them from www.posten.se  Not if you mail a letter, but always with packages. Both foreign and domestic.

I ought to know, I send about 20 - 25 each month....

[JaXanim]

Further to Binder's latest email (ref. postal receipts) and whatever that may bring, I have prepared an email to him along the following lines:

"With reference to your last email, you say that some people haven't received their boards yet. This is incorrect. Nobody has received their boards!

I suggest that YOU make appropriate enquiries at YOUR Post Office as to why NONE of the packages you say you have posted have arrived.

You have received AT LEAST 2,600 Euros from us and we have received NOTHING from you.

If the boards are not delivered by the end of April, we will ask the Police to investigate your 'business'."

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I haven't yet sent this but am prepared to do so on my own account. However, if anyone else wishes to send a copy, please do so.

I'll wait for Monday's mail to see if I get my Registered Letter. If not, this goes to Binder on Tuesday, truckin' or not.

Cheers,

JaX

[CU_AMiGA]

@JaXanim

Yes i am with you on sending that email to him. But maybe you should wait until Friday, cos by then, it would be the end of April (i should know, it's my birthday then! :-)) And if he did send it, we should have recieved it by then, he would have no excuse.

[odin]

@jaxanim:

I'll pmail you with Karoly Toth's email address. Other than the information I posted above I have no further contact details I'm afraid.
-edit-
Huh? Where have all the pmail buttons gone?

[JaXanim]

@CUamiga

I'll give it till mid-week. If I leave it till weekend, the deadline has passed.

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@odin

Got it, cheers.

Looking at the 'Kralle..xx' range of Ebay IDs, it seems one is used for buying stuff and another for selling stuff.

Binder's ID was 'Kralle' at one stage and whoever is using it now is buying actively as I type this. If it's Binder, he ain't truckin' anywhwere!

JaX

[CU_AMiGA]

@JaXanim

Should we all send that message to him (sort of like an ambush!). That way he may thnink this is serious business.

[mboehmer_e3b]

Hi guys,

using http://www.telefonbuch.de/ you can search for postal code, name and city (beware: popups ahead). BTW, I tried and got only one "Toth" entry in Albstadt, but with different surname.

If you have a phone number, you may also use one of those reversal CDs (usually KlickTel) to get an address out of the number.

Michael

[JaXanim]

No sign of a registered letter from Binder today. Anyone?

@Flowman

You said you have Binder's phone number and that you have actually spoken to him.

Would you please PM me the number.

Did you PM the number to cgutjahr? He's our only man on the ground after all.

Cheers,

JaX

[JaXanim]

I discussed the issue with my Bank Manager today and he agrees that we should alert the Police if the problem isn't sorted by month-end.

@mboehmer_e3b

'Toth' IS the surname. Tibor Toth is the name appearing on Binder's emails. Karoly Toth is selling stuff on Ebay under the 'Kralle900' ID, a name which appears to originate from Bernd Binder. Another of these 'Kralles' does the selling.

Thanks for your suggestions and your interest in helping us out.

JaX

[Cyberus]

This thread is like a soap opera, full of cliff hangers [no! I'm not trying to trivialise this problwm - I almost ordered a card myself, but was reluctant to send money, so I am very eager to find out what the outcome will be]

Although Binder makes me think of the character Milo Minderbinder (or whatever his name is) from Catch-22

I think you should forget giving him another week, or until the end of the month or whatever, and get on his case NOW!

[JaXanim]

@CUAmiga

If nobody gets their registered letter by this coming weekend, I think everyone involved should send emails to Binder, Toth and whoever else they can think of. We should make it clear that this is as far as it goes and that the Police will be asked to investigate.

***If Flowman will PM me with Binder's phone number I will tell him personally what is about to happen.***

Cheers,

JaX

[JaXanim]

@Cyberus

Any suggestions?

JaX

[Cyberus]

JaXanim wrote:
@Cyberus

Any suggestions?

JaX

How long ago did you send him money?

What's the maximum amount of time a parcel should take (according to Deutsche Post)?

Did he actually give you a guarantee that he would send the goods (like an email, saying "I'll send the goods next week")

Did any of you pay by credit card (if so, contact your credit card company and get them to chase him - I had to do the same thing a year ago over a laptop I paid for on ebay and never received) - I explained the process in great detail to xh6354 a couple of months back [and never got so much as a 'thank you', I might add] when that guy in the UK advertised  BPPC on Amibench and it was a fraud.

Do you have a solicitor? Have you been to the local CAB?

[x56h34]

@Cyberus:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6331

What part of "I would like to thank everyone" did you not understand?