Several PPC cards on Amibench

[JaXanim]

Well, the fact that Mr Binder is still around and contactable (though not so easily) and the fact he is responding, says something I suppose.

This is the weirdest deal I've ever been part of!

Cheers,

JaX

[guest1955]

I'm not too sure what those who keep saying "PHONE HIM!" are expecting.
This is how it will probably go:
bring bring!
>Hallo?
Hello, I bought a card from you and I still haven't got it
>So?
Well I want to know as to whether you are a crook or not
>...I'm not
Oh goody! Well, that's me convinced
Hangs up

[Morley]

-double post-

[Morley]

I must say, I sincereley hope this deal has an happy ending, even if that means I missed an oppurtinity to buy a nicely priced Cyberstorm :-)
If somebody is succesful in pulling a fraud this size on such a small community, something is wrong. I never thought crooks this size existed in the Amiga community.

Good luck to all of you who have paid money for the PPC boards, looks like you're going to need it now...

[JaXanim]

Talking of Plan B, has anyone got the foggiest idea what that might be?

Just a thought...but I still think this will pan out OK.
It's just too unsubtle to be a fraud.

Cheers,

JaX

[weirdami]

COW! :laughing:

[punkpie]

Er... Plan B... Does anyone know anyone who lives anywhere near him?  Or perhaps can speak German and get a better discussion out of him on the phone than we can?

How about contacting the postal service he used to see if we can any information about the packages?  For all we know they could be stuck in some sort of customs service "ready to me looked over" or something.  Stranger things have happened

I sent him yet another email telling him that I'm now getting worried.  No reply as yet.  ~sigh~

[preacher]

I'm sorry to inform you all that I've also tried to buy a CSPPC 604/233Mhz from this guy. I saw his ad at AmiBench and asked him if he had any cards left. He said they all had been sold already. A week or two later, he emaild me and he said that 'a guy' claimed to have sent money to him, but he never got it. Thus, he had a card over and wondered if I was interested. I was, and we agreed that I should transfer 350 euros to him. He offered me several payment methods, but I wired the money directly from my bank to his instead.

This was 10 days ago. To my surprise, I found this thread when searching for 'Binder' and 'PPC'... I'd like to think I haven't been conned, but while reading this thread, I start to think that is the case...

The mailtraffic between us was quite frequent. After I recieved a note from my bank that the money had been transferred, the traffic stopped. I haven't heard from the guy for 10 days. Ok, I know, I should cut him some slack. He might have been in an accident or is on holiday or something. You never know.

Still, I will not give up. I called my bank today to cancel the moneyorder. I will also do my best to track him down. The world is already full of assholes; we don't need another one. I will give Berndt Binder the opportunity to explain his actions. He knows how to contact me.

[JaXanim]

@punkpie

Most Germans speak perfect English. Mr Binder's emails to me shows he knows English OK.

Plan B, whatever that my be, wouldn't need a linguist.

JaX

[JaXanim]

@preacher

This doesn't really sound like a scam, does it? Waiting a fortnight before asking you to pay doesn't sound like someone who's ready to cut and run.

You don't give your location, but ten days for a deal between Germany and the UK isn't really enough time. Most of the members of this particular group have now been waiting a month or so.

If he's a fraud, he doesn't appear to be worried about the Police knocking on his door! With the amount of money he's received from this, he ought to be long gone!

As I say, it's the weirdest deal I ever saw!

Cheers,

JaX

[NightShade737]

Still only takes me about 5 days to get stuff from the US via USPS when it gets caught in customs. I'm not saying it's a scam at all, but the bloke isn't doing this cleanly, something IS going on...

[vpcs]

In the past I have purchased many Amiga products from Germany. The longest it took to get to the USA was 10 Days the shortest being 4 days... Just food for thought. Even if he is legit I would want a partial refund for the massive delay..

[CU_AMiGA]

Off topic:-

I think these PPC cards are DCE ones (and not Phase 5). Would the PPC be compatible with my Phase 5 Blizzardvision, also should i be prepared for incompatibility issues?

[NightShade737]

They ARE the DCE versions (it was stated in the advert). Strangely enough I have been seeing more issues with Phase5 Blizzard boards than DCE ones lately.

[x56h34]

Guys, at this time, there are two possibilities here and I suspect that #2 is IT.

#1 He is a con

#2 He took the money but is still to acquire the cards from "somewhere". He is probably stalling until he receives the merchandise, but to keep us quiet for now, he claims that the cards have been sent already, and is slow to respond to e-mails.

Anyway, I will give it some more time (end of the month) and then I will personally call Bernd, and the German police, and do whatever necessary to get my money back.

[preacher]

@JaXanim

I agree with you, to a certain degree. Yes, sending stuff between countries can be a hazzle and the seller can not help this, of course. However, Herr Binder ought to learn how to take care of his customers. In our email thread, I asked for a quick reply when the money showed up on his bank account. He hasn't even done that. And in this forum thread, I read about people that have been waiting for more than a month.

Me, and I'm sure others as well, doesn't accept paying good money for hardware that 'might' show up within the next two months.
I'm pretty convinced that if there were a delay with his cards, he'd tell us. I see no reason why not. Oviously, people wants to buy. If he'd waited until he actually got the cards, he could easily sold them at that point.