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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #89 from previous page: February 08, 2018, 08:44:19 AM »
I buy for sure. But the waiting .... i am impatient
My wife think that i am a little bit crazy to wait so many years and still hoping for the short term, to get one
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2018, 08:54:56 AM »
Here the XE sits side by side with the 060 PIV and i5 or 7 or whatever pc and is nearly never booted as there is nothing new to do. In 2004 it was exciting. 2014 maybe.

Anything new like a browser?  (Sorry..)
 

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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2018, 09:15:33 AM »
I have al so emulation on mij mac mini. Amikid x.
I use it a litle. I just d'ont like emulation.
On the other side i have Morphos 3.9 on my powerbook G4 with a big 17" screen. I use it serval times a week, good os.
For just browsing, it is slow but for what i do, i have not a lot of problems. Of corse not all websites work, but for me it is ok.
There is a lot of good software for morphos.
I have just not " the amiga " feeling with MorphOs.
That is the reason i want the Tabor. I can not now of the machine is that wat i hope.
Of course i hope he is faster than my powerbook g4 and 1.76 Mhz.
But for real speed i d'ont by the Amiga. I now that my Mac or a PC is a lot faster for the money.
I just like Amiga and the fun and nostalgie of it.
Why os4? There is the possibility to do modern things with it, what is not possible with Classic Amiga.
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2018, 09:30:50 AM »
A bit more modern yes. Also the new have memory, GFX and Drive speeds that are far better  than in this XE G4 case. Both still lack the todo with.

When IB and others come I'll get the new MUI and Magellan and start playing again. It is Really fun Amiga things. Bought this for some more power needing Classic programs and for the future ones.  Most classics didn't run.

Back then this should have been an expansion to the A1200.

Offcourse USB, DVI and Memory and others come so it's more modern Amiga OS. Hundreds of Gigabytes of HD/SD in an Amiga. Yes Please.

With the PIV , King Of The GFX Cards couldn't use DPVI for example, neither with the XE so had to go back as any other program just isn't for me. Many others. In Games like Payback.

Still waiting.. So my point was the proggies. Would it be Tabor or X10000.
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2018, 10:12:34 AM »
Quote from: dirkzwager;835894
I buy for sure. But the waiting .... i am impatient
My wife think that i am a little bit crazy to wait so many years and still hoping for the short term, to get one


I'm still waiting, but I've stopped thinking about it. If/when it comes out, I'll probably buy one. Until then, there's a lot of other stuff to keep me busy, both in Amigaland and the rest of the computing world.

Starting to wonder whether it will ever come out, or if Hyperion are in too much trouble to complete the development of the OS for it. The boards have been ready since 2015. Now we're just waiting for the OS.
 

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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2018, 10:19:11 AM »
@trekiej
>Is the FPU of this SOC good for 3D Rendering?

Not so bad
When new progs will use Nova or GL-ES then the FPU will no more have much importance as it will be the GPU that will do all the math for 3D
Also MiniGL (that use Warp3D not Nova) may be recompiled at some point to use the Tabor FPU so may improve rendering for old games on Tabor

Also note that your video prove nothing as
- 3D objects dont have much vertices
- It use Nova so it is the GPU that move the vertices
so Fpu usage is very low

Certainly a new MiniGL using Nova will appear one day ... but we will have to wait ... two more weeks ... a lots of time

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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2018, 12:39:12 PM »
I noticed that when Debian 8 was running it showed 2 cores and a third unknown core.
What is the third Core?
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2018, 01:48:06 PM »
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A bit more modern yes. Also the new have memory, GFX and Drive speeds that are far better  than in this XE G4 case. Both still lack the todo with.

When IB and others come I'll get the new MUI and Magellan and start playing again. It is Really fun Amiga things. Bought this for some more power needing Classic programs and for the future ones.  Most classics didn't run.

Back then this should have been an expansion to the A1200.

Offcourse USB, DVI and Memory and others come so it's more modern Amiga OS. Hundreds of Gigabytes of HD/SD in an Amiga. Yes Please.

With the PIV , King Of The GFX Cards couldn't use DPVI for example, neither with the XE so had to go back as any other program just isn't for me. Many others. In Games like Payback.

Still waiting.. So my point was the proggies. Would it be Tabor or X10000.

What's an X10000? ;-)

Tabor support might be completed this year.
If you all are lucky it will be ready by AmiWest 2018.

Beyond the issues with the cpu, the limited expansion capabilities put me off
Once a video card is installed you are out of expansion slots.
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #97 on: February 08, 2018, 09:06:49 PM »
Depends if Vampire stand alone comes first then my interest will  be a lot lower. It has already taken far to long.
 

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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #98 on: February 08, 2018, 09:49:24 PM »
@PR

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With the PIV , King Of The GFX Cards couldn't use DPVI for example,  neither with the XE so had to go back as any other program just isn't  for me.

Was DPVI a Deluxe Paint version used by Electronics Arts employees for internal 2D art? Did you find a leaked copy? ;-)
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #99 on: February 08, 2018, 10:40:22 PM »
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What's an X10000? ;-)

Tabor support might be completed this year.
If you all are lucky it will be ready by AmiWest 2018.


Question keeps interesting which will be first: Tabor with OS4 or MorphOS3.10.
Both are way overdue.

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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #100 on: February 08, 2018, 11:08:46 PM »
I like the nice mood at amiga.org , a bit jelaous as been an "NG" . Stay out of the other not so polite.  

Ok so AX1000/0 and DPV/I is a bit futuristic dreaming.

Make it A1XE and PersonalPaint for here.

Still, as before I go back to the A1200 with some whistles and my two AmigaGirls just love DP and all the fun games. (Just turned 8 and the other five, they love eg. IK+ with TAC-2:s;)

How bad is that? ;)
 

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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #101 on: February 08, 2018, 11:34:22 PM »
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Question keeps interesting which will be first: Tabor with OS4 or MorphOS3.10.
Both are way overdue.

and i want both, darn it! ;)

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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2018, 12:14:46 AM »
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Question keeps interesting which will be first: Tabor with OS4 or MorphOS3.10.
Both are way overdue.


Yes, the delay on both is getting a bit much.
3.10 was demo'd at AmiWest last year, and we all know Tabor has been ready for some time.
But the MorphOS team won't release 3.10 until they are happy with it, and Hyperion has to finish the OS4 port for Tabor before Aeon will sell that.

Further, since you can't plug a network card into Tabor or any other expansion card, ALL the drivers have to be ready when shipped.
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #103 on: February 09, 2018, 08:17:51 AM »
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Depends if Vampire stand alone comes first then my interest will  be a lot lower. It has already taken far to long.


Something to look out for.
No NG system but very nice.
I so the Vampire at amiga32, impressive.
The Vampire v4 wil be even faster and more memory.
Perhaps there is first the new vampire, and than the A1222.
Of course that there is competition to this, is some thing that everybody nows. At Hypirion, Trevor and the Vampire team.
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Re: Who's getting the Tabor?
« Reply #104 on: February 09, 2018, 05:26:35 PM »
Most impressive would be a ready full Amiga package.

Like Cartoon Classics + a night in a hotel + DeluxePaint etc..