Drives in HDToolBox not detected full size (CHS settings?)

[LoadWB]

Checked that, too.  Even worse, I just took a CF card and without re-initializing it just  partitioned and formatted and lo, the upgrade from 3.1 to 3.9 is corrupt.  Like Mike, I think I could be dealing with a bad 3.9 CD.  I don't know, but at this point I've spent several hours across three drives.  I'll try again next week.

[Pat the Cat]

One slight variation I would try - first setup the drive with HDtoolbox. Get that done properly. Then shut down all active systems to power off.

Power on, try the install of OS. Some HD types you had to do this, otherwise the drive itself got confused about its own geometry. Maybe with design of SSD, you have to do this, because the old geometry is cached locally on the drive, and you have to zap that with a power off, and then do a cold boot of the drive to make sure the old geometry isn't messing with the new one.

Some drives are just a bit TOO smart like that, and you kind of have to make them into dumb idiots with the whole procedure. After they're setup they are fine. You just can't install an OS on such systems without a cold boot after they are prepared, paritioned etc.

Always use quick format option on solid state media. No point using low level format, that's the drives responsibility with solid state tech. No analog stage is required, the data isn't physically bits of magnetism fuzzily arranged on an disk area anymore.

[LoadWB]

I used different media, combined with the proper CHS settings in HDToolbox I got OS3.9 working on the 64GB SSD, as well I can now copy large files (400MB to the SSD) with no problems.  I have a few quirks and things to do remaining.

Hitting RAmiga-E to bring up the "Execute" requester causes the system to crash.  This actually happens with the original load of the OS which came with the computer.  Mind, it was probably loaded from the same good media.

I'm going to work to identify the BoingBag level tomorrow to see what needs to be installed.  I am pretty sure it's an original release of OS3.9 considering the "AmigaOS ROM Update" is v44.26, but what I found interesting is the bad media gives me the installation option of installing over 3.0, while the good media installs over 3.0/3.1.  Maybe it is a BB1 media?

So far everything is working well.  Using hddreport to get the proper settings for HDToolbox seems to have fixed the problem of moving large amounts of data over to the SSD.  (Yes, for the n-tieth time I did check MaxTransfer at ever load.)

At this point I have MUI3.8 and Poseidon installed (RapidRoad on X-Surf 100.)  Oh, and FBlit and FText. Tomorrow if I have time I will install Roadshow and DOpus and try out some WHDLoad games (currently extracting from USB.)  Probably wouldn't hurt to update some MUI classes and install WarpDT datatypes.  I'm using an Indivision AGA MKII and once everything else is stable I'll install my new VA2000.

I think I need a "fresh load" FAQ to help me sort additional enhancements I should install.  I remember a while ago I posed a question about that, I'll try to dig that up.

One nasty little thing niggling me is my 3640 is a Rev 0.  Haven't decided if I should do anything about that (other than regret ever selling my WarpEngine 4040.)

Thanks to all.  It looks like my original problem is resolved!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Maybe it is a BB1 media?

They didn't make a "BB1" media, just an initial release and a "SE", with some fixes to the installer script.  Source:  http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/installtips.html#17

Boing Bag 1:  http://os.amigaworld.de/download.php?id=4

Boing Bag 2:  http://os.amigaworld.de/download.php?id=5

Some additional FAQ's and optional locale updates:  http://os.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=12

Boing Bag 3/4:  http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/BoingBags3&4.lha

Boing Bag 3/4 readme and changelog:  http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/BoingBags3&4.readme

There's lots of install videos on YouTube but here's my crappy one from a few years ago:
Part 1:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCMw8bStvG4
Part 2:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufCuW--Q2nA

It may be of some help to you, if you can get through my rambling.  

Have fun!  

[LoadWB]

They didn't make a "BB1" media, just an initial release and a "SE", with some fixes to the installer script.  Source:  http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/installtips.html#17

Ah, well then!

Boing Bag 1:  http://os.amigaworld.de/download.php?id=4

Boing Bag 2:  http://os.amigaworld.de/download.php?id=5

Have these stashed away.  Good to have a mirror

Some additional FAQ's and optional locale updates:  http://os.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=12

Boing Bag 3/4:  http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/BoingBags3&4.lha

Boing Bag 3/4 readme and changelog:  http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/BoingBags3&4.readme

There's lots of install videos on YouTube but here's my crappy one from a few years ago:
Part 1:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCMw8bStvG4
Part 2:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufCuW--Q2nA

It may be of some help to you, if you can get through my rambling.  

Have fun!  

Oh, ugh, rambling?  C'mon, man, you met my short attention span!  I'm not certain about BB3 and 4, honestly.  Yeah, I know a lot of people swear by them but I'm still not sure about taking the plunge.

Something I thought about today on the way home is using the Cloanto 3.1 floppies to see if those will recognize large hard drives to install a big SSD without having to resort to the 3.9 disk set before installing 3.1.

I'd like to do this from the ground up with as little secondary (non-Amiga) machinery as possible.  I don't suppose using a 3.9 Emergency Boot Floppy is too bad since it is made by another Amiga.

Good night!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I swear by the 3.9 ERD personally, although the Cloanto disks might work if they also have CD drivers (to detect the 3.9 CD in the drive) and an updated HDToolbox (to prep the new HD).

The changelog for BB 3/4 is all out there in the open, it's not like it does some "big secret thing" to somehow screw up people's machines.  IMHO most of the people who have trouble with it are because they have a system that's been running 3.9 + BB1 & 2 for years, then try installing 3/4 over top of that.  You've got all different versions of stuff from god-only-knows-where, that's a problem.  But doing a fresh install of 3.9 immediately followed by 1, then 2, then 3/4, like the authors intended, shouldn't give you any problems.

G'nite!  

[LoadWB]

BB1 installed with a little fuss over the Installer (same as mentioned in the thread OP, actually.)  I installed Installer v43 by mistake and all hell broke loose.

According to this post, my good installation media is the SE release.  All is still going very well.

[LoadWB]

I figured that I would share the fruits of our labor here.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I figured that I would share the fruits of our labor here.

Nice setup!  Lots of good modern hardware goodness in there.  

I see you have one of those new MNT graphics cards.  Guy who's making them recently posted on Facebook that he's about to produce another batch.  How do you like it?  Are you using something like a Ratte monitor switch to switch between the output of the card and your Indivision?

[LoadWB]

Nice setup!  Lots of good modern hardware goodness in there.  

I see you have one of those new MNT graphics cards.  Guy who's making them recently posted on Facebook that he's about to produce another batch.  How do you like it?  Are you using something like a Ratte monitor switch to switch between the output of the card and your Indivision?

I have not yet been able to use it as I have not yet installed P96 and its driver.  I plan to use a regular HDMI switch or monitor with multiple HDMI/DVI inputs, at least at first.  Ultimately, if things work the way I hope, I can get an automatic HDMI switch with a priority input pretty inexpensively.  I have not checked out Ratte's monitor switch but will have a look (maybe I have and just don't remember.)

Eventually I will likely swap around parts from my now two 4000D systems depending upon the outcomes here.  My other system has a CSMKIII with a Deneb (which I *really* like for the boot flash) and a PIV, and it will soon have a UWSCSI->IDE adapter for an IDE SSD or UWSCSI->IDE->SATA for a SATA SSD.  I *love* my PIV, but if an Indivision and VA2000 work as well as I hope then I might move it over to my A2000 in place of the Spectrum 28/24.