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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2016, 04:50:53 PM »
It's all very well saying hoard old CRTs even if you don't know anyone nearby to fix it but seriously, who has the space? I managed 28 years out of my Acorn ADF-32 28-ADF32 using with both an Atari ST in the 80s and early 90s and then my AGA Amiga since 1995 and I consider that good service. Even when the power button broke I continued to use it (it was stuck 'ON') by plugged it into an Eyetech external Amiga PSU. When it broke this year I just thought it's seen its day to be honest and over a quarter of a century's use is awesome! Sometimes you just have to let go and I'm very happy with my Benq BL702A ;-)
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2016, 05:52:50 PM »
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My time is worth more than money. If I can buy a thing for $90 and have it installed and working in 15 minutes, vs. posting questions on forums, buying two or three $20 cables, moving the TV, plugging them in, unplugging, pushing buttons and trying different settings, going back and reading more forums, etc., etc.

TL;DR. If I can buy a thing that "just works" verses di**ing around for two or three hours trying to kludge together a poorer quality solution, I consider myself having saved money.
I have also found that in the amiga world..."poor" equals I don't want to spend MY money.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2016, 06:39:00 PM »
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I have also found that in the amiga world..."poor" equals I don't want to spend MY money.

LOL.  Ain't that the truth.  I've reached the age in my life where I have more money than time, and will gladly spend it on things that I enjoy.  Amiga is not a cheap hobby.  Go build houses out of popsicle sticks or something, if you want a cheap hobby.  :laughing:
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2016, 06:43:09 PM »
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LOL.  Ain't that the truth.  I've reached the age in my life where I have more money than time, and will gladly spend it on things that I enjoy.  Amiga is not a cheap hobby.  Go build houses out of popsicle sticks or something, if you want a cheap hobby.  :laughing:
"Funny" story SACC sells tested used donated amiga (a 1080) stuff at AmiWest.
I was at the SACC table where a user asked how much? I said $20 us.

He said too much... (LOL) kind of
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2016, 07:26:42 PM »
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It's all very well saying hoard old CRTs even if you don't know anyone nearby to fix it but seriously, who has the space? I managed 28 years out of my Acorn ADF-32 28-ADF32 using with both an Atari ST in the 80s and early 90s and then my AGA Amiga since 1995 and I consider that good service. Even when the power button broke I continued to use it (it was stuck 'ON') by plugged it into an Eyetech external Amiga PSU. When it broke this year I just thought it's seen its day to be honest and over a quarter of a century's use is awesome! Sometimes you just have to let go and I'm very happy with my Benq BL702A ;-)



There are more options besides hoarding it or throwing it away. It's easy to find someone who will take it, with people paying $100+ for beat up vintage CRT monitors on ebay it's not hard to give away even a dead one if it's something vintage. Most of the older ones are easy to fix, they're very simple. A lot more fun to work on than the modern stuff and to my eyes they look much nicer than LCD.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2016, 03:19:25 AM »
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"Help the poor boy" :hammer:

:lol:
Okay, come to a SACC meeting, I will give you a monitor!
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2016, 04:23:24 AM »
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Okay, come to a SACC meeting, I will give you a monitor!


I've given away about five of them over the years. You can't sell 'em, since there's almost a 100% chance of them getting damaged in shipment. So unless you can find someone who wants them locally they're about as useful as a doorstop, lol. ;)
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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2016, 07:00:08 PM »
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Okay, come to a SACC meeting, I will give you a monitor!


Then it gonna cost much more :hammer:
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2016, 09:11:16 PM »
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I've given away about five of them over the years. You can't sell 'em, since there's almost a 100% chance of them getting damaged in shipment. So unless you can find someone who wants them locally they're about as useful as a doorstop, lol. ;)


I bet if you post it on craigslist it will be gone in no time. I've shipped CRT monitors successfully but it requires careful packing and is not likely to be worth it for one of these. There are some where it would be though, for a while I was looking for an IBM EGA monitor for my XT but I eventually gave up. A few of them went up on ebay but they all sold for >$300 + shipping.

15kHz RGB monitors are popular with the arcade guys too as bench test monitors.
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2016, 09:59:36 PM »
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My project might interest you guys then...

http://www.retronicdesign.com/en/new-product-in-developpement-amiga-rgb-to-ypbpr-components-video-converter/



Hope it's cheap :hammer:
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2016, 11:25:35 PM »
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Hope it's cheap :hammer:

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2016, 09:17:26 AM »
Then give me one for free or die hard :laughing:
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2016, 10:04:29 PM »
Just bought an Amiga 500 with A520 which works fine, colored output.
But when I connect its A520 to my Amiga 2000 rev6, it gives me grayscale output :( :(
 

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Re: Help the poor boy, 1084 is dead and need color output =(
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 28, 2017, 04:16:36 PM »
LOL!!!

Actually, it should be around 40$ CAD.

I've had a real hard time to find a way to "clip" the color levels properly. I'm in what we call the NTSC problem or "Never Twice the Same Color"... :roflmao:

I changed the design alot and now I'm using a ready made color conversion matrix on a chip.  This chip was designed for new gaming console in order to convert RGB signals to Components / S-Video / Composite video signals. :razz:

Prototype will be arriving soon from the shop so stand by for more news about it's performances.

In the mean time, check out if your LCD TV is compatible to 240P. Fast way to test it is to connect the Amiga monochrome signal into the Y input of the components port. If you have an image, bingo, you're good!  If you have a "no signal" message , then your TV can't interpret 240P.  You can try put your Amiga into interlaced mode (480i). The image should appear then.  You need another LCD screen.  Most Sony Bravia and Samsung TV are compatible.

Cheers!

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