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Offline wawrzon

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #74 from previous page: December 04, 2016, 05:15:45 AM »
Quote from: chris;817243
Oh, is this working on the Vampire now? What was the problem?


is this even the same vesion of netsurf? maybe they are using artis sdl port?

@utri

im not sure if your benchmarking bears any actual meaning. there is so much factors the speed you measure may depend upon, the actual internet rates, the likely varying contents of the pages you are downloading and therefore the possibly varying acces times. above all you dont even use a cable connestion but wlan.. who even cares what stack or interface you use? id test against a locally saved page to at least eliminate few of these unknown variables. but i have said that before..
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2016, 11:03:37 PM »
Double checked with wired lan. 68040 benefits more slab allocator than 68060. After twice as slow first load, it halves a download / rendering time, so that is actually same speed than 68060 or even faster. With same logic with 68060 second load of amiga.org should take less than 15 seconds. (now about 25 sec).

Quote from: wawrzon;817265
id test against a locally saved page to at least eliminate few of these unknown variables. but i have said that before..


My internet connection is 20/20mb. Key is repeating tests, to see that every test gives about same results. I don't try to make science of this.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2016, 11:08:12 PM by utri007 »
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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
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Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2017, 07:56:46 PM »
I've updated the build to latest HEAD.

After running NetSurf twice I'm getting a recoverable alert 010000009 - memory freed twice.
Previously everything would just freeze, so that's sort of an improvement.
Need to track this down.
"Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2017, 11:30:29 PM »
Tested quikly and seems that border problems and gui refresh problem is now gone??

Now my 68040 machine "officially" renders amiga.org faster than my 68060 machine.

Amiga.org is rendered 29 seconds with 68040 :),  and 31 seconds with 68060. Reloading page and both renders it 23 seconds. Restarted browser and amiga.org was loaded 27 seonds with 68040 and 29 seconds with 68060.

Amigaworld.net is still loaded faster with 68060 15 seconds, and 68040 20seconds.

I haven't had problems restarting browser,except that first version wich has working java.

Restarted browser some 6-7 times, no problems with it.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2017, 10:52:30 AM »
Quote from: utri007;819626
Tested quikly and seems that border problems and gui refresh problem is now gone??


I fixed the SimpleRefresh refreshing.  The tree windows are new (rewritten) and now support SimpleRefresh too.

I don't know what you mean by "border problems".
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2017, 11:07:49 AM »
Quote from: chris;819641


I don't know what you mean by "border problems".


When resizing or / and movin Netsurf, window borders used to disapper bottom / left / right.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #80 on: February 11, 2017, 04:41:24 PM »
New test build: http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3
This time I'm specifically interested in performance and oddities related to secure websites (https), compared to the previous version (http://www.cy2.uk/tmp/netsurf_os3_oldssl.lha if you need to download to compare)

btw this isn't directly related to the AmiSSL v4 update :) actually it should be faster :)
"Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #81 on: February 11, 2017, 04:57:16 PM »
Thanks again :)
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2017, 06:08:30 PM »
If I try to go https://google.fi it just says can't fetch.

If I try to answer to this thread wit Netsurf it gives assertion error and can't find utf8

Is it so that it tries to use true type font, maybe speficied true type font used on this site?

I don't notice any difference in performance generally.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline x303

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2017, 06:08:43 PM »
Quote from: chris;821969
New test build: http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3
This time I'm specifically interested in performance and oddities related to secure websites (https), compared to the previous version (http://www.cy2.uk/tmp/netsurf_os3_oldssl.lha if you need to download to compare)

Did you used openssl in this version ? :confused:
 

Offline x303

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2017, 06:23:15 PM »
Quote from: utri007;821973
If I try to go https://google.fi it just says can't fetch.

Well I can, but it seems google search isn't redirecting to a secure page (uses http by default).
 

Offline x303

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #85 on: February 11, 2017, 06:31:39 PM »
gmail doesn't work right. Can type username, but can't type in password.
 

Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2017, 06:32:43 PM »
Quote from: utri007;821973
If I try to go https://google.fi it just says can't fetch.

Works here.

You can try https://www.howsmyssl.com if you want to check SSL is working.

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If I try to answer to this thread wit Netsurf it gives assertion error and can't find utf8

Is it so that it tries to use true type font, maybe speficied true type font used on this site?

That's because my bitmap font routines are buggy.

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I don't notice any difference in performance generally.

General performance should be the same, only fetching of secure pages will have improved.  Wikipedia seems faster here, I know previously that was taking an insane amount of time although newer versions have been better in that regard anyway - but this version appears to be twice as fast on Wikipedia than the previous one.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2017, 06:46:57 PM by chris »
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Offline chrisTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2017, 06:35:22 PM »
Quote from: x303;821974
Did you used openssl in this version ? :confused:

I've always been using OpenSSL.  The difference is this version contains some previously undiscovered 68k optimisations. ;)

Quote from: x303;821978
gmail doesn't work right. Can type username, but can't type in password.

That's normal (another bitmap font bug).  It is typing, you just can't see that it is typing.
Incidentally GMail is a bit of a faf to get into, you need to log in (it'll complain about the password but will log you in) and then go back to mail.google.com and go to the basic HTML view.  I managed to log in here using those steps!
« Last Edit: February 11, 2017, 06:41:26 PM by chris »
"Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion
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Offline x303

Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2017, 06:39:04 PM »
Well, another bug. If you unclick the bitmap fonts in the prefs, netsurf goes scanning for fonts. Crashes after a while.

But in the end (when reloading), gmail did work with simple html layout.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2017, 06:44:58 PM by x303 »
 

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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released!
« Reply #89 on: February 13, 2017, 10:14:39 AM »
Works fine so far.
But like previous versions, Netsurf "crashes" after quitting it with 80000004 code (OS3.9, Amiga1200)