FS FAAAST ACA1232 50 MHz 128 MB RAM turbocard, faster, than Blizzard 1230 50 MHz!!

[paul1981]

Ironically it would have sold on amibay at 250 euros.

[Faerytale]

This tread will go on forever if people keep trolling here. Let him set his own price whatever it is. It it sells or not this tread will sink to the bottom.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

pyrre: RARE! The  original ACA1232 50 MHz card was available in November-December 2015.  only, was limited edition, 10-15 pieces, all sold (300 €). This will  never be produced already. ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro! Dhrystones 9203 only. My 1232 11408.

paul1981: Why? What is amibay? This is not the most important retro site on the world. The amibay prices are not authoritative. There are cheap and expensive products everywhere. My 250 Euro price too cheap. Real price min. 300 Euro.

Faerytale: The topic lasts until somebody does not buy it.

[kolla]

Faerytale: The topic lasts until somebody does not buy it.

That happened many pages ago

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro!

You can buy a brand-new 40MHz ACA card on Amigakit for $215 USD.  That works out to about 195 EUR. Just checked it today. For someone who's so interested in nickel-and-diming the price of an item, you should at least check your numbers before posting them.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

You can buy a brand-new 40MHz ACA card on Amigakit for $215 USD.  That works out to about 195 EUR. Just checked it today. For someone who's so interested in nickel-and-diming the price of an item, you should at least check your numbers before posting them.

ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro. https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/aca1232_1220_cpu/68030.40+/product/ACA12xx.html#filter=*
Amigakit 240 Euro, or 280 USD, or 191 GBP. http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1285
ACA1233n 26 MHz 170 Euro. https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/ACA12xx.html?aca1232_1220_cpu=68030.26#filter=*
ACA1233 55 MHz 360 Euro. https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/aca1232_1220_cpu/68030.55+/product/ACA12xx.html#filter=*
My 1232 50 MHz 250 Euro brutal cheap.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I can't even.  Nobody buys from icomp.de.  They buy from a reseller, such as AmigaKit.   Throwing up my hands in your general direction at this absurdity. :evil:

Some screenshots:

[Blizzard 128 MB]

Omg dude.  Nobody buys from icomp.de.  They buy from a reseller, AmigaKit is just one example.  Do you not know anything about buying and selling, and list prices?  I just can't even.  Throwing up my hands in your general direction at this absurdity. :evil:

Some screenshots:

Icomp = manufacturer.
I look on amigakit 1233n-40 prices. The 215 USD error in USA store.
European store 240 Euro, Canadian store 280 USD, UK store 191 GBP.
All prices have to be alike in 1 shop. 240 Euro = 280 USD = 191 GBP. 215 USD impossible.
If 1233n 240 Euro, then my 1232 50 MHz cheap 300 Euro. 250 Euro super cheap.

[Arnuph1s]

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

The 215 USD error in USA store.

*of course it is*  Riiiight.  All of these websites are wrong, and full of lies.  It's all a giant conspiracy with the sole intention of preventing you from selling your one hacked up board.  :lol:

Would you like a tinfoil hat to go along with your conspiracy theories?

[Blizzard 128 MB]

*of course it is*  Riiiight.  All of these websites are wrong, and full of lies.  It's all a giant conspiracy with the sole intention of preventing you from selling your one hacked up board.  :lol:

Would you like a tinfoil hat to go along with your conspiracy theories?

My 1232 real price min. 300-350 Euro. 250 Euro cheap.
Why do you write to me, if you do not want to shop? Why do you not deal with other things? You pester me vainly, you're wrong. The retro things prices rise. You may do nothing against the price rise. The prices do not conform to you. Be shopping somewhere else, if my product is too expensive.

[gertsy]

Agree, move along, this parot has ceased to be!  It's getting into bullying territory now.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

Horror = impossible to sell a cheap, rare turbocard, will  never be produced already.
Be ashamed of yourselves.

[paul1981]

Horror = impossible to sell a cheap, rare turbocard, will  never be produced already.
Be ashamed of yourselves.

http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232#50MHz_limited_edition

50MHz limited edition

 Starting mid-november 2015, a limited edition of this card is  offered, using a 50MHz-rated 68030 CPU with full MMU. This card has a  completely new SD-Ram controller, especially geared towards handling a  higher CPU clock while maintaining all timing requirements of each and  every component of the card. That means: No part of the card is  overclocked. All components are operated well within specifications.  Previously, customers have overclocked our cards to obtain a 50MHz  version, but these cards have shown instabilities because memory and the  memory controller were also overclocked. Most of these customers went  back to using the original (and guaranteed!) clock frequency.

Does your card have the new SD-Ram controller? If not, then you can not pass it off as one of those rare 50MHz versions that were available from November 2015. I'm just being honest here, this is not an attack upon you, but I don't think it's fair to try and pass your card off as one of those rare versions, people need to know exactly what they are buying.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232#50MHz_limited_edition

Does your card have the new SD-Ram controller? If not, then you can not pass it off as one of those rare 50MHz versions that were available from November 2015. I'm just being honest here, this is not an attack upon you, but I don't think it's fair to try and pass your card off as one of those rare versions, people need to know exactly what they are buying.

Noooo. Original made in 2015 50 MHz ACA1232 RAM controller work on 50 MHz, oscillator 50 MHz. CPU work on 50 MHz.
All ACA1232 20, 25, 30, 33, 40 MHz card PCB same. The difference CPU freq (in 33 MHz card are 33 MHz CPU), and R1-4 resistors only. But original 1232 50 MHz RAM controller different. Original 1232 25 MHz card freq. multiplier resistor R2 (RAM 50 MHz, CPU 25 MHz), original 50 MHz card R2 (RAM 50 MHz, CPU 50 MHz).

My 1232 RAM clock 100 MHz, look this topic message 1:
R1-4 switch configuration, original not modified oscillator 20 MHz, multiplication, not divide.
All off, RAM 2× =  40 MHz, CPU 20 MHz.
R2 on, RAM 2,5× =  50 MHz, CPU 25 MHz.
R3 on, RAM 3× = 60 MHz, CPU 30 MHz.
R1 on, RAM 3,33× = 66 MHz, CPU 33 MHz.
R2+4 on, RAM 4× = 80 MHz, CPU 40 MHz.
R1+4 on, RAM 5× = 100 MHz, CPU 50 MHz.
R4 on, RAM 5,33× = 106,6 MHz, CPU 53,3 MHz. Never try!
R2+3 on, RAM 6× = 120 MHz, CPU 60 MHz. Never try!
R1+3 on, RAM 8× = 160 Mhz, CPU 80 MHz. Never try!
Never try other 7 combinations (R1+2 on, etc.)!

Look: http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1232#ACA_12xx_Benchmarks
Original 50 MHz 1232 dhrystones 10576, my 1232 11478. The reason of the difference RAM speed!

The ACA1233 55 MHz oscillator 55,55 Mhz, RAM and CPU work on 55 MHz.
ACA1233 40 MHz oscillator 80 MHz, RAM work on 80 MHz, CPU work on 40 MHz. Divide 1/2 = RAM controller, not resistors!
New 1233n 26 and 40 MHz oscillators 80 MHz. At both version RAM work on 80 MHz, CPU work on 80/2=40 MHz, or 80/3=26 MHz. Simple.
Divide 1/2, or 1/3 = RAM controller, not resistors!

There was need for a new RAM controller (ACA1233-55, and 1232-50), because the RAM chips are not work on 105-110 MHz. (ACA1233-55 CPU freq. 55 MHz, RAM freq. 110 MHz, this not work.)
100 MHz are big loads already (1232-50). They (icomp) did not want to use the RAM chips on approximately 95% load.
ACA card RAM chips: EM63A165TS-6G. http://www.etron.com/manager/uploads/EM63A165TS_v1.4.pdf
166 MHz Fully synchronous operation.
100-110 MHz why not OK?
R4 on, RAM 5,33× = 106,6 MHz, CPU 53,3 MHz. Not stable, start disk pic OK, but boot = guru.

They used new RAM controller for the 1232-50, if a new controller was needed for the 1233-55.
1233-55 limited edition: http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1233#55.55_MHz_limited_edition

[giZmo350]

@Blizzard 128 MB

You can try to sell your old ACA1232 for whatever price you want - I'm not gonna dog you for that. But the ACA1233n-40 seems to be a much better spec'd board.

I can assure you that the price on AmigaKit is for a fact $215.89 USD. I just ordered one 10 minutes ago! Great price and these won't be around forever. The 1233n-40 seems to be a more feature rich board than even the 1233-55 as the 55 still uses the ACATune tool and can't be controlled thru software (although it's faster). Also ordered Personal Paint 7.3b!

Per iComp....

New features (of the ACA1233-40)

Memory auto-configuration
Dynamic clocking for power-saving
card enable/disable in software
memory available to onboard CPU if accelerator is switched off
faster clockport for RapidRoad gives 55% speed increase
new software compatibility settings
improved A1200 compatibility
Memory of the ACA1233n is auto-configuring. This means that all memory is available from a power-up without installing any software on the computer. The old ACAtune tool, which was required for our previous accelerators, is not required any more.

If you do not require full speed, the card can be slowed down in order to save power. The CPU governor program will monitor CPU requirement and adapt to the demands of your application, resulting in the best power/performance ratio for your use case.

Some software does not like accelerated execution. For these cases, the ACA1233n can be switched off in two steps: The first step is to switch off the 68030 CPU and give control to the CPU of the host computer. On an A1200, you can still use 9MBytes of fast memory, which are also auto-configuring. The second step is to switch off additional memory as well, getting the computer into it's stock state. If used on an ACA500 or ACA500plus, memory can NOT be used by the 68ec000 processor.

The clockport of the ACA1233n can either take an RTC module, or the RapidRoad USB host controller. Operation of RapidRoad is 55% faster than with the internal clock port of the A1200 computer. This function is available in all modes of operation on an A1200 computer, and on the ACA500plus. It is not available if the ACA1233n is operated on an ACA500.

If software is not compatible with 32-bit memory, Z3 autoconfig or newer Kickstart version, the ACA1233n allows downgrading to Z2 autoconfig, older Kickstart versions and also lets you switch off the so-called "trapdoor memory area". The MapROM function is even available on an A1200 if the 68030 CPU is switched off! This will let you use different Kickstart ROM versions without opening the computer and exchanging ROM chips.

Last not least, the ACA1233n features a new A1200 motherboard interface. Some A1200 main boards have been delivered with the wrong timing components and require modification for reliable use with accelerators. With the new improved interface, the ACA1233n is less likely to require these board patches. Although this has been tested extensively, timing patches may still be required.

I just hope this doesn't take too long to finish up...
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1233n

So, I jumped down the obligatory rabbit hole!!!!  :lol: (BIG Rabbit!)



PS - HAHAHA! AGAIN I got the last one of another great product from AmigaKit! This has happened to me about 8 times now! the ACA went from Available to Pre-Order right after my order completed! Everything's coming up giZmo!

PSS - I'm gonna send the ACA1233-40 straight off to Acill to have an FPU installed! Along with my A2000 MB to have a recap and corrosion cleaned up & install a coin battery kit! Also an A1200 MB recently bought on eBay for a recap and hole type ROM sockets so I can start using my FAST ATA IDE board again!