FS FAAAST ACA1232 50 MHz 128 MB RAM turbocard, faster, than Blizzard 1230 50 MHz!!

[DutchinUSA]

It's like trying to argue with a teenager Mike .. forget about it :laughing:

[paul1981]

I don't understand.
The obsolete Blizzard 1230 MK4 329 and 349 Euro (Sept. 10 and 17 ebay.de) without FPU not overpriced? This right? Why? This not overpriced? My 1232 300 Euro overpriced? Why?

The B1230 50 MHz slower, than my card. Sysinfo 8200-9000, my 1232 50 MHz 11478!
May other sellers sell the old Blizzard products expensively?
Why may I not sell my 1232 card at a real price?
If B1230 350 Euro, then my 1232-50 min. 450 Euro!
My 1232 cheap.

Those Blizzards on ebay.de were overpriced by 150 euros, but like I said, overpricing still sells when it comes down to collectors getting exactly what they want. You want top dollar for your card yes? eBay will be your best bet.

Have you installed SysSpeed yet?

[Blizzard 128 MB]

All of the versions of the Vampire 2 will be expensive.
Sept. 19. news, A600 version new price min. 250 Euro.
The A500 version will be more expensive.
First A500 version on ebay.com 465 USD now.
A1200 version price?
My 1232 cheap.

[klx300r]

@ Blizzard 128 MB

if you want to avoid the extra costs of EBay then put your card on AmiBay, state your price and if it sells you avoid the cost and hassle of EBay.
Many people including myself have bought & sold with no issues there and personally i prefer to buy from fellow amigans and not EBay profiteers.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

@ Blizzard 128 MB

if you want to avoid the extra costs of EBay then put your card on AmiBay, state your price and if it sells you avoid the cost and hassle of EBay.
Many people including myself have bought & sold with no issues there and personally i prefer to buy from fellow amigans and not EBay profiteers.

Amibay not OK. Too many are the rule. Amibay rules = manure.
Prohibited to raise the price, ebay linking, ebay price write, etc.. "Declare to interest" rule. If I am not the 1. customer, shopping impossible. Because of a little irregularity banned users. The moderators interfere in everything. It is possible to do nothing, only what the moderators allow. The moderators broke their own rules.

[paul1981]

There's a real ACA1232 @ 50MHz on Amibay at the moment...280 euros.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

There's a real ACA1232 @ 50MHz on Amibay at the moment...280 euros.

I saw. Starting price was 300 Euro in July 9.
I do not understand the buyers. The original 1232-50 product was available until a short time last year, all of them were taken away quickly. Sure wanted yet to have bought some men, but did not can.
Where are the buyers? The 1232-50 best price/value proportion product.

Obsolete B1230 250-350 Euro, slow 1233n/40 240 Euro, B1240+Apollo 1240 450 Euro, B1260, Apollo 1260 550-700 Euro, BPPC 1000+ Euro, Blizzard SCSI kit 150-200 Euro, 128 MB EDO RAM 60 Euro, etc.
1232 128 MB, all Apollo card max. RAM 8-64 MB, B1230 MK1-3 max. 32-64 MB, B1230 MK4 only handle 128 MB.
B1240, 1260 128 MB, PPC 256 MB.

[pyrre]

@ Blizzard 128 MB
You can ask for any price you want. But you will never get more than the buyers are willing to pay. Regardless of what you think it is worth....
When are you going to realize it?

[Blizzard 128 MB]

@ Blizzard 128 MB
You can ask for any price you want. But you will never get more than the buyers are willing to pay. Regardless of what you think it is worth....
When are you going to realize it?

The real prices change between wide borders. I wrote some prices already.
Look: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=814199&postcount=58
If they sold B1230 300-350 Euro, then my 1232/50 300 Euro not too expensive.

I do not give it more cheaply. I did not work free.
The 33 MHz 1232 + shipping + 50 MHz CPU + shipping + socket + shipping + my (de)soldering + testing + photo + etc. work = min. 300 Euro.
I have to obtain the suitable money for my work.

The icomp will never produce 1232/50 product longer!!
The new ACA1233n, etc. card 50 MHz 68030 CPU clock with oscillator change, etc. impossible!
All ACA1233n oscillator 80 MHz.
40 MHz CPU version = 80/2=40 MHz CPU freq. The RAM work on 80 MHz.
26 MHz CPU version = 80/3=26,6 MHz CPU freq. The RAM work on 80 MHz.
CPU speed up impossible, 40 MHz version oscillator change to 100 MHz, because RAM not work on 100 MHz. (If CPU 50 MHz, then RAM 100 MHz.)
If 26 MHz version card oscillator change to 100 MHz, then CPU freq. 33,3 MHz only. The 1/3 (40 MHz version 1/2) divide fix, cannot be modified!
At 26 MHz version if CPU 50 MHz, RAM 150 MHz, this impossible.
The ACA1233n 26 MHz was 160 Euro on Sept. 10-15, now 170 Euro.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I have to obtain the suitable money for my work.

Go tell that to Kipper2k.  

[gertsy]

Sorry just have to chime in. I think the problem is English. How could something be overpriced if it sells? Clearly that is the essence of the meaning of "over priced". Priced too high to sell.  People are confusing their personal view of what they would be willing to pay with the price at which something is offered. Two different things. Economics 101.
Having a view on something doesn't make it right:"I wouldn't pay that much", "I think that's way too expensive", "wow, way out of my budget". Would be appropriate.
It's human nature to justify our own views as the norm, and then to blame the other party when they are called out.
Logic dictates something is not overpriced if it sells.
Are you buying my point, or is it overpriced?

[orange]

yes, it can be overpriced. just because some rich bi*ch decided to burn some money, don't mean its not overpriced.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

Go tell that to Kipper2k.  

I am not a dealer. I want to obtain the real price for the product.
I know the prices, the old and new(er) products. Not overpriced my product.
They sold obsolete, old, slower products more expensively (B1230 300-350 Euro). This is a fact.
You pick out 1 sentence, and you provoke.
If you do not want to shop, to provoke want only, then do not write more to me.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

Sorry just have to chime in. I think the problem is English. How could something be overpriced if it sells? Clearly that is the essence of the meaning of "over priced". Priced too high to sell.  People are confusing their personal view of what they would be willing to pay with the price at which something is offered. Two different things. Economics 101.
Having a view on something doesn't make it right:"I wouldn't pay that much", "I think that's way too expensive", "wow, way out of my budget". Would be appropriate.
It's human nature to justify our own views as the norm, and then to blame the other party when they are called out.
Logic dictates something is not overpriced if it sells.
Are you buying my point, or is it overpriced?

My 1232 not overpriced. If I advertise it for 500 Euro, then overpriced, 68040 25-40 MHz cards 400-500 Euro, 68060 50-80 MHz cards 600 Euro.
The buyers paid much money (2-5× real price!) for many products already (on ebay, etc.). I saw lot unreal prices.
-- ACA500 200-300 Euro (ebay.de, original price was 80-90 Euro).
-- Vampire V2 600 472 Euro on Sept. 18., 700 Euro on Sept. 13., 825 Euro with A600 on aug. 14. (ebay, original price 150 Euro).
-- C64 reloaded motherboard 300-700 Euro (original price 160 Euro).
Etc.

[gertsy]

yes, it can be overpriced. just because some rich bi*ch decided to burn some money, don't mean its not overpriced.

Clearly it does mean it's not overpriced. If someone paid the price.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I know the prices, the old and new(er) products. Not overpriced my product.

That's nice. You stated that your card was worth 450 EUR. Has it sold yet?  Can we merge this thread with the crazy ebay listings one?  :laughing: :laughing: