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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2004, 05:02:30 AM »
Does this mean I won't get my T :whack:  :whack: ... ouch!
 

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2004, 05:05:45 AM »
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2004, 05:48:32 AM »
by Wayne on 2004/3/15 23:19:12

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To ALL OF THOSE OUT THERE who have called me a liar for over a year now regarding Garry Hare, I would hope that you have the balls to offer an apology.


If they didn't apologize for calling you all sorts of things when you said OS4 would not be released in 2003, why do you think they would do it now?  Please, they are not that type of people. :\

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2004, 06:06:54 AM »
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by Wayne on 2004/3/15 23:19:12

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To ALL OF THOSE OUT THERE who have called me a liar for over a year now regarding Garry Hare, I would hope that you have the balls to offer an apology.


If they didn't apologize for calling you all sorts of things when you said OS4 would not be released in 2003, why do you think they would do it now?  Please, they are not that type of people. :\

Dammy



You're right.

Now we know why Amiga were ignoring all requests for licensing of Amiga IP too... they didn't own it anymore.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2004, 06:49:59 AM »
Probably why Amiga Inc. couldn't say a single thing over the past year, probably lots of non-disclosure stuff in this sale and everything...

Sad really ... does it make all those Ask Fleecys worthless? Is AG2 a myth? Is it the future of AmigaDE, not OS? Will we ever know? Will we care by then, or will we have migrated to other computer systems?
 

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2004, 07:03:30 AM »
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You're right.

Now we know why Amiga were ignoring all requests for licensing of Amiga IP too... they didn't own it anymore.


But they are claiming to own it in depositions for the court system, which is where this is going to get interesting for McEwen, also they sold their only real asset while the debters  are trying to collect their money and the company is insolvent, thats probably not going to stand up in the courts.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2004, 07:17:00 AM »
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T_Bone wrote:

You're right.

Now we know why Amiga were ignoring all requests for licensing of Amiga IP too... they didn't own it anymore.


But they are claiming to own it in depositions for the court system, which is where this is going to get interesting for McEwen, also they sold their only real asset while the debters  are trying to collect their money and the company is insolvent, thats probably not going to stand up in the courts.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2004, 08:13:14 AM »
This whole thing smells like a fish that's been out of water for a week.

If this is true, then Amiga Inc. have been intentionally misleading the community for (close to) an entire year. Boy, and I thought the "Ask Fleecy" gibbersh was nonsense before.. Puts everything in a whole different light now.

Quite frankly, this appears to be a shell-game. If the rights to AOS were purchased almost a year ago, how is it that Amiga Inc suddenly acquire money right now? Someone sell their gold dental fillings or something. I also find it hilarious that, in the court documents, it says that KMOS owns the rights to source including 3.9 when Amiga Inc didn't even have the source to give to Hyperion.

What I can't fathom is why. Or who for that matter. As cool as I think AOS is, it just isn't worth that much. Any sales past units in the 1000s is more in line with pipe dreams.

I've seen comments elsewhere that claim that this is all damning evidence for Bill Buck. Frankly, I don't see it. First of all, if the item in question regarding Fleecy (don't remember hearing about it) is true, they've got no proof that Bill Buck knew it was a forgery, even if he did post on (was it moobunny or ann?)

I also like how all of the depositions say that AmigaDE is a seperate entity from AOS4. Not one claim that it (AOS4) was planned to be forged from AmigaDE.

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2004, 08:26:20 AM »
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they've got no proof that Bill Buck knew it was a forgery


Bill Buck presented it as a fact.

It was not.

End of story.

Anyway, for him to have seen the e-mail, he would have read the thread with all the "this is probably a hoax" messages.

And he didn't exactly contact Fleecy to get confirmation that it was him that posted it either.

So he knewingly, and willingly, submitted something he didn't know the authenticity of, as evidence. Most likely he knew it was forged. Of course, he wasn't betting on Amiga Inc. suddenly being able to disprove this. Looks like Amiga Inc. got a good poker hand at last!

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Not one claim that it (AOS4) was planned to be forged from AmigaDE.


Which didn't happen. So it is irrelevant.
 

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2004, 09:29:52 AM »
OK. I think that this is the last change that i give to amiga. Really all the promises look like the "politicians promises". And if IBM will buy the entire amiga market?
If someone remenber, when Bill and Fleecy entering in the game, was presented as people that are amiga lovers and amiga community lovers. I'm sorry but like the others these are simple money lovers. Amigaone, Matrox, new os .... We have to get a crystall ball and lurk into this with a little bit of hope.
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2004, 10:05:22 AM »
@Hattig

Fleecy confirmed that Garry Hare was working in Amiga Inc, doing some consult job. Looks like KMOS was supposed to take Amiga name but due to this incident they didn't...
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2004, 10:13:07 AM »
Sorry to go OT and all but...

DAMN ITIX, WHO'S THE BABE!?  (Avatar). :-o
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2004, 10:49:22 AM »
Um Phat....



That's a guy. Final Fantasy 10, Mate?
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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2004, 10:53:27 AM »
PhatBoiCollier panted:
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DAMN ITIX, WHO'S THE BABE!?  (Avatar). :-o

;-) Dude, that's Tidus, the main character in Final Fantasy X on the Playstation 2.

Tidus is a guy, by the way.
 

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2004, 12:09:34 PM »
Thanks, yes, that is true.

I was talking about the e-mail 'from' Fleecy that was on ANN recently that was actually a forgery, yet bbrv used it as evidence in the court case.
 

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Re: Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????
« Reply #59 from previous page: March 16, 2004, 12:13:33 PM »
Garry Hare?



LOL!

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Now lets hear some apologies (you know yourself who you are)! :-)
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