Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????

[T_Bone]

CodeSmith wrote:
Well, at least now we know what happened to Garry Hare :-)

I wonder if he was a Genesi employee at the time he was passing out those business cards...

You think he was working for genesi and Amiga at the same time?  :-o

[CodeSmith]

No, I was just pondering the possibility that he was working for Genesi and only claiming to have deposed Bill McEwen.  I remember Bill Buck making a big deal of it at the time, saying how it was "old news" and he thought everyone knew about it.  All this, of course, at a time when McEwen was keeping out of sight because of an alleged threat to his family.  It would have been an easy thing to hire someone to pass fake business cards around, and create rumours that could later be exploited.

[Matt_H]

In addition to everything else that's been posted, simply reading the post reveals a lot about it:

27 February 2004: San Francisco, California. KMOS, Incorporated announced today that it has acquired the Operating System known as Amiga OS 4.0 from Amiga, Incorporated. Garry Hare, Chief Executive Officer of KMOS, said, the acquisition of this innovative operating system was completed in April of 2003. We have continued to cooperate, and will continue to cooperate, with the existing development, technical and distribution partners toward the AmigaOne market.

The tone is terrible and the phrasing is awkward - obviously not written by a real company, probably by someone who doesn't speak English very well. Shouldn't there be a few quotation marks in there?

Hoax.

[CodeSmith]

The tone is terrible and the phrasing is awkward - obviously not written by a real company, probably by someone who doesn't speak English very well. Shouldn't there be a few quotation marks in there?

Never mind that - where's a link to the source?  without that, it's completely unverifiable.  I mean, I can do it too.  Watch:

Feb 24, 2004: Cape Kennedy, Florida.  NASA officials have today discovered that the moon is indeed made of green cheese.  "We were completely stunned about it, but the evidence is there.  We had all these moon rocks for the longest time, and no-one had though of breaking one open," said Mike McGregor, one of the scientists involved in the discovery.

[Floid]

Google's only reference to 'KMOS, Inc.'

[Matt_H]

@ CodeSmith

 :lol:

[T_Bone]

CodeSmith wrote:
No, I was just pondering the possibility that he was working for Genesi and only claiming to have deposed Bill McEwen.  I remember Bill Buck making a big deal of it at the time, saying how it was "old news" and he thought everyone knew about it.  All this, of course, at a time when McEwen was keeping out of sight because of an alleged threat to his family.  It would have been an easy thing to hire someone to pass fake business cards around, and create rumours that could later be exploited.

Fleecy already confirmed Garry Hare was working for Amiga though. He said Garry was there at the request of the investors.

[CodeSmith]

Oh, OK.  So much for that particular conspiracy theory then :-)

[Kronos]

@CodeSmith

Thats one of the weirdest theories I ever heard about the Garry Hare
incedent.....

Don't you think that this threat to McBill's family sounds all to similar
to "used furniture", "backhoe-accident","attack on our phone-system"
and "we are only moving closer to our costumers" ?

The most likely scenario is that Netventures did send Garry in to perform
an (hostile) takeover. This didn't went through, wether due to McBill
having secured himself, or if it just wasn't considered worthwhile by
Netventures is beyond public knowledge.

@Jose
If this wouldn't be hoax (and I'm somewhat sure it is), and Hyperion would
really have bought AmigaOS in 2003, what would it change ?

BB's contract is still ~2 years older than that, all the $$$-verdicts are
still older than that. So IF the judge really decides that BB licenced
"AmigaOS" back than, he still would void Hyperion's contact.

Same will happen if/when AInc finally goes into bancruptsy. All contracts
made after they SHOULD have filled for (probraly somewhere in early 2002)
will be voided.

[JoannaK]

Colin_Camper wrote:
DaveyD said he was asked to remove it from amigaworld.net
Ben Hermans said that it got removed because it was not
official. He won't comment on it (yet).

Awesome!

It would explain why Amiga Inc were happy to roll over in the thendic vs amiga case.

IMHO That lawsuit had it's merits as it is, there is/was a deal and in a way it was written... I can see that case as a way to enforce years old deal (includin related trademarks, access to code etc). *But* BBRV trying to expand it for OS4 would indeed be quite big leap (IANAL, but it don¨t feel 100% proof idea).

This would leave bbrv chasing shadows....

I think you forget something quite obvious. *If* this were real.. this KMOS (Garry Hare backed by vernture capiltalists, most likely the same that originally backed Ainc) is more likely been willing to make a decent licensing/distribution deal about OS4 than AmigaInc was.. So in the end. BBRV Could get it with *less* money/effort that way.

So far.. only thing that makes it feel even a bit more real is unclear action of Hermans.. and I'd rather heard it from himself. Perhaps he knows there is some truth in it???

[IonDeluxe]

We dont get red herrings here, just red and white ones.......

[Framiga]

Feb 24, 2004: Cape Kennedy, Florida. NASA officials have today discovered that the moon is indeed made of green cheese. "We were completely stunned about it, but the evidence is there. We had all these moon rocks for the longest time, and no-one had though of breaking one open," said Mike McGregor, one of the scientists involved in the discovery.

WHY!!!! isn't it true?!?

OMG!!! all my mouses are crying ATM

Ciao

[Colin_Camper]

So in the end. BBRV Could get it with *less* money/effort that way.
quote]

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to see pegasos/morphos stuffed the way bbrv wants Amiga Inc stuffed.
Ideally, in a years time I would like to see;

1: AmigaOS4.x/AmigaOne available off the shelf - the real Amiga for top dollar!
2: Pegasos2/Morphos available off the shelf - morphos with licenced DE API so OS4.x apps aren't broken - an amiga clone for medium dollar!
3: AROS more or less usable with a special DE licence so developers can develop for free and X86 users can be 'teased'!

Oh and a T-shirt would be nice!  :-P

[Jose]

@Kronos

I don't think anyone knows for sure, not even them... All we can do is talk about it. And it puzzles me a little that the contract between Thendic and AInc. was as an OEM that would have non exclusive rights to sell the OS (whatever is interpreted as OS ...) and the Hyperion one was to develop it. Totally different things. So according to logic the first one can't invalidade the second. Hyperion could develop the OS and have to give it to Thendic for them to sell it becaue of the first deal(if OS4.2 can be interpreted as DE wich is a pulled up thing everyone knows..).

[Elwood]

Is KMOS the same as KMOS-TV ?

Found this at
"In 1978, Central Missouri State University, located in Warrensburg, MO, purchased bankrupt CBS-affiliate KMOS, located about 28 miles east in Sedalia. With PTFP assistance the station was put back on the air as a PBS affiliate in 1979. Today, KMOS-TV provides analog PBS service on Channel 6 to more than 800,000 people in 36 central Missouri counties."
http://broadcastengineering.com/ar/broadcasting_kmos/

[Bobsonsirjonny]

:-D