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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #44 from previous page: July 27, 2016, 07:40:24 PM »
I don't think it's top secret I copy a link I've seen in a another forum about OGL ES and Nova.
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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2016, 02:23:10 AM »
Greetings,

This is my first post here. Recently for my 50th birthday I indulged myself in getting my hands on a loaded Classic Amiga 2000 after 25 years to get back to doing a bit of C coding as from what I can tell the core OS has not changed too much and figured since OS4 hardware has not been available its a good place to start.

 I have been professionally in development for over 30 years and am now an  executive overseeing a large international development team.  Programming for me now is a outside of work hobby and I look forward to bringing some software to the Amiga OS 4.X Platform.  I anxiously await to getting my hands on X5000 as I hope to be able to get LLVM up and running on OS4 possibly port Clang as I have fun little programming language that I can bring to environment.

Compared to all the modern OS systems I deal with day to day.  The Amiga is just plan fun!

So for my first post on Amiga.org I have registered my interest with AEON and I say bring on the X5000!

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2016, 03:52:29 AM »
@Doug

Welcome, I hope you really can bring some cool software to OS 4.x.
 

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2016, 04:35:27 AM »
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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2016, 04:48:25 AM »
Why I want an A-Eon X5000, by agami

There are geeks and nerds, there are pop-culture aficionados, tech lovers, history buffs, and creatives. There are many people in many walks of life that go beyond just using a computer as a modern day tool to navigate the digital economy, entertainment, and communications.

The not so distant past is no less replete with these types and I count myself amongst them, both presently and historically. In many ways by being a computer user in the '80s one needed to be more than a tool user, and thus our personalities got shaped by how we contrive the computer into a tool, more than simply applying the tool. We, of the nascent personal computer era, for the most part today are just another tool user, but inside us sleeps, restlessly at times, a tool shaper. We are always on the lookout for that next thing that will proverbially speak to us on that fond level. But that is not why I want an A-Eon X5000.

In the '80s no product imprinted upon my psyche more so than the Amiga 500. It was more than an upgrade path for Commodore 64 users. Sure, it was packaged as a computer inside a keyboard, and I could use the same TV set. It had awesome looking games and we got remakes of our C64 favourites. Before I got my own, a friend had got one. I remember it as if it were yesterday: Up until that point using the C64 was fun; A nice little hobby, or a waste of time as my parents would phrase it. But what I saw that day represented the future. I was certain of it. I felt it with every cell in my body. I have to be part of the future. I have to get me one of these.

The marvellous years of Amiga use went on. More models, more applications, more games. In Europe and later when I moved back to Australia there was a healthy commercial market and engaged communities. Despite many of Commodore's missteps that I'd read about in the magazines, like may others I was enjoying my Amiga's every day. I could exercise any level of my creativity and I could cut down tasks in half with many awesome productive applications. It's handling of multiple types of media were unmatched at that price point, even when you take into account the add-ons most ended up buying. I would blow people away with presentations I'd prepared with Scala MM. I would create awesome brochures and pamphlets that I could get professionally printed by many agencies. I made home videos for family members with titles and mixed audio that they are still enjoying today. And then there were the games. Shooters, platformers, adventures, puzzles, strategy, racing, and sims. So many awesome titles, many of which continue to be an inspiration for  games today. But this too is not why I want an A-Eon X5000.

No, the reasons for my want are all in my brain. Like Tervor, I too still want my A5000; When this thing was talked about in 1993/94 it was yet another glimpse into the future. Sure, most of it was speculation but the AAA chipset features where known and one could extrapolate from there. Alas it, and a succession of promising Amiga computers never materialised. Call me nostalgic if you will, you won't be far off the mark, but the real reason has more to do with addiction than the lament of a "love lost". I want the serotonin but also want the dopamine hit. And I know getting an X5000 will deliver that hit. Then again, many other pieces of tech will.

In truth, it would've been more accurate if I titled my essay "Why I want, but will not be getting an X5000". The dopamine hit would soon be followed by too much buyer's remorse. Perhaps one day in the not too distant future when one or more of my ventures makes me the kind of money Trevor has, after I get a Tesla and a yacht, then I could see this specific "itch" being scratched.
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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2016, 05:19:42 AM »
A 2000 is a great place to get started! Had a 500 for maybe 6 months and swapped it for a 2000 with a megachip and 030/040 combo card, added graphics card. Nice but, nothing beats an 060.

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2016, 07:22:32 AM »
@Doug
Welcome!
About bringing LLVM/CLANG and applications to OS 4.x that would be awesome. There is an attempt at Github for a 68k backend and I think that the Aros team are also building it with this tools.
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Offline SACC-guyTopic starter

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2016, 07:39:59 AM »
Quote from: DStastny;811745
Greetings,

This is my first post here. Recently for my 50th birthday I indulged myself in getting my hands on a loaded Classic Amiga 2000 after 25 years to get back to doing a bit of C coding as from what I can tell the core OS has not changed too much and figured since OS4 hardware has not been available its a good place to start.

 I have been professionally in development for over 30 years and am now an  executive overseeing a large international development team.  Programming for me now is a outside of work hobby and I look forward to bringing some software to the Amiga OS 4.X Platform.  I anxiously await to getting my hands on X5000 as I hope to be able to get LLVM up and running on OS4 possibly port Clang as I have fun little programming language that I can bring to environment.

Compared to all the modern OS systems I deal with day to day.  The Amiga is just plan fun!

So for my first post on Amiga.org I have registered my interest with AEON and I say bring on the X5000!

Doug
Welcome Doug,
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Offline SACC-guyTopic starter

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2016, 07:43:33 AM »
@agami
So why did you mis-lead us in your post?

Maybe you should make your own thread?
 

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2016, 09:11:22 PM »
Welcome DStastny!

I hope you look into the possibility of making your programs both AOS 3 and 4 compatible, as the classic line is getting a modern revival with the Vampire accelerator/FPGA.

Even tho I dont have a NG machine/AOS4.x Im happy to hear a expirienced developer like you give the Amiga NG machines your attention!
 

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2016, 11:15:57 PM »
Thanks all for welcome.  

 Look forward to getting hands on powerpc hardware.  The Vampire project looks interesting too and could breath some life into 68k hardware. Not to be disrespectful to team working on it but a one man manufacturing and distribution channel they have set up needs to be greatly improved as it just seems random as to when or who can get one.   Although OS 4 hardware is not available either so I guess Vampire is ahead for moment :)
 

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2016, 02:35:50 AM »
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@agami
So why did you mis-lead us in your post?
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I don't think I was misleading. Like yourself and I'm sure many others, I too want an X5000. And I did cover the reasons I want one. And I'm sure I'm not the only person who wants one but will not be getting one.

Either way I hope I provided some interesting reading.
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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2016, 04:05:50 PM »
There's many enhancements to the quake1 engine these days.
The Dark Skies engine being a good example. Although this was ported to OS4 already, the current os4 build looks horrible compard to the AROS version(and other systems with pixel shaders and proper ht&l).

Additionally mipmapping existed in hardware 15+ years ago. Its far from a modern feature.

Point to this..... nothing really. Just pointing out some errors in previous posts.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2016, 04:18:46 PM »
@fishy_fiz

DarkPlaces OS4 was written for the old Warp3D and not the new Warp3D Nova.  It would be interesting to see what it looks like under Nova ;)

Mipmapping has been added to Warp3D Nova's new Shader based 3D graphics which did not exist 15 years ago of course.
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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2016, 05:26:59 PM »
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Additionally mipmapping existed in hardware 15+ years ago. Its far from a modern feature.


It might not be something new and not already available in Warp3D but it's still a significant enough feature to mention since objects close to the camera position could look crude without it.
 

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #59 on: August 01, 2016, 01:53:41 AM »
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Additionally mipmapping existed in hardware 15+ years ago. Its far from a modern feature.

Point to this..... nothing really. Just pointing out some errors in previous posts.


Amigakit didn't present mipmapping as some "modern feature." Yes, mipmapping is old, but it's also a fundamental "must have" feature (like stencil buffering). So adding it is another step toward a fully featured system. That's worth a mention.

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