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Offline pyrreTopic starter

Some assistance is needed.....
« on: June 10, 2016, 11:56:25 PM »
#1 I struggle with my IndivisionECS.
- I empty the dev:monitor/ folder and the computer boots up with colors and working quite nice. in low resolution though.
- The problem occurs when i change ANY screenmode settings. The main WB screen goes into black and white. other screens show colors. dopus i in full color mode, if 16 colors are selected.
- But no matter what other screenmodes i change to, WB screen goes black'n white.
- HighGFX mode does not seem to do any changes. putting the screenmote in monitors does nothing. no new screenmodes to select. and the only file present in the "devs:monitors/" is the highGFX screenmde files.
- Should i put other files there or make any entries to the startup-sequnce?

#2 I struggle getting my buddha finding CF cards. i have an old 500MB HDD that works...... Well... it works....
- I try adding cf adapter to the same cable, changing between M/S. putting the disk and the cf on separate channels, no identifying. all though when HDToolbox scans the controller the cf adapter blinks when it scans unit 5 in the scsi chain.
- Oh. and putting the icon tooltype to "buddha_atapi.device" the HDD does not show up. By just using "ASKDEVICE" in icon tooltype the HDD shows up and i can partition and format it without problems...:eek:
- i use a SanDisk ultra 4GB CF card, and i have multiple adapters. and no avail... no results. though, i can addres it in uae, even partirion and format it. but it does not show up in the A500.... No automount... nothing...
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2016, 12:32:53 AM »
HighGfx is picky about what monitor you use it with. It's really pushing the system to it's limits. Try some of the other modes, like 800x600x16-color SuperPlus, I've found that worked on every monitor and TV I threw at it. At it's most basic, the Indi ECS is just a scan doubler. Do other modes display correctly at 31KHz?  NTSC 640x400, 320x200, etc.?

Also make sure your firmware is on 1.10 (not 1.01) for the more advanced screenmodes. You may need to tinker with the config tool, but the "out of the box" config should work fine with most normal Amiga screenmodes and modern displays.
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2016, 12:35:21 PM »
Have not updated the indi yet. but all modes, even standard modes get black if i push use.... and i see no highgfx modes in the list from screenmode prefs.

Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;809842
HighGfx is picky about what monitor you use it with. It's really pushing the system to it's limits. Try some of the other modes, like 800x600x16-color SuperPlus, I've found that worked on every monitor and TV I threw at it. At it's most basic, the Indi ECS is just a scan doubler. Do other modes display correctly at 31KHz?  NTSC 640x400, 320x200, etc.?

Also make sure your firmware is on 1.10 (not 1.01) for the more advanced screenmodes. You may need to tinker with the config tool, but the "out of the box" config should work fine with most normal Amiga screenmodes and modern displays.
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline Motormouth

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 01:48:07 PM »
Quote from: pyrre;809840
#1 I struggle with my IndivisionECS.
- I empty the dev:monitor/ folder and the computer boots up with colors and working quite nice. in low resolution though.
- The problem occurs when i change ANY screenmode settings. The main WB screen goes into black and white. other screens show colors. dopus i in full color mode, if 16 colors are selected.
- But no matter what other screenmodes i change to, WB screen goes black'n white.
- HighGFX mode does not seem to do any changes. putting the screenmote in monitors does nothing. no new screenmodes to select. and the only file present in the "devs:monitors/" is the highGFX screenmde files.
- Should i put other files there or make any entries to the startup-sequnce?

#2 I struggle getting my buddha finding CF cards. i have an old 500MB HDD that works...... Well... it works....
- I try adding cf adapter to the same cable, changing between M/S. putting the disk and the cf on separate channels, no identifying. all though when HDToolbox scans the controller the cf adapter blinks when it scans unit 5 in the scsi chain.
- Oh. and putting the icon tooltype to "buddha_atapi.device" the HDD does not show up. By just using "ASKDEVICE" in icon tooltype the HDD shows up and i can partition and format it without problems...:eek:
- i use a SanDisk ultra 4GB CF card, and i have multiple adapters. and no avail... no results. though, i can addres it in uae, even partirion and format it. but it does not show up in the A500.... No automount... nothing...


In reference to #1  I suggest trying a different power supply.  The Indivision ECS is picky about clean power.  On my A500+  I switched from a Obese Boy power supply (not very politically correct name) to a modded XT power supply.  It was like magic the Indivision started working without a problem.  

I got the old Oscope out and looked at the Obese Boy supply, the 5 volt line was a bit noisy particularly when the floppy drive it being accessed.  Before the power supply switch I had all likes of issues with the Indivision.  It would everything from drop signal to have tearing screen issues.
 

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Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2016, 01:59:24 PM »
Quote from: pyrre;809840
#2 I struggle getting my buddha finding CF cards. i have an old 500MB HDD that works...... Well... it works....
- I try adding cf adapter to the same cable, changing between M/S. putting the disk and the cf on separate channels, no identifying. all though when HDToolbox scans the controller the cf adapter blinks when it scans unit 5 in the scsi chain.
- Oh. and putting the icon tooltype to "buddha_atapi.device" the HDD does not show up. By just using "ASKDEVICE" in icon tooltype the HDD shows up and i can partition and format it without problems...:eek:
- i use a SanDisk ultra 4GB CF card, and i have multiple adapters. and no avail... no results. though, i can addres it in uae, even partirion and format it. but it does not show up in the A500.... No automount... nothing...


Maybe the last firmware 1.1 should fix the issue...

==> http://cosmosamiga.free.fr/download/IDEFix_patches.readme


The actual firmware is copyrighted by Jens, good luck with this guy...

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2016, 02:20:57 PM »
And then all of a sudden, the powerled starts to blink and the screen goes green....
damn

EDIT: reseating kickstart seemingly did the trick this time.... Grumpy old gal's these Amiga's :D
« Last Edit: June 11, 2016, 02:36:06 PM by pyrre »
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2016, 02:51:49 PM »
Quote from: Cosmos;809865
Maybe the last firmware 1.1 should fix the issue...

==> http://cosmosamiga.free.fr/download/IDEFix_patches.readme


The actual firmware is copyrighted by Jens, good luck with this guy...
Thanks for the heads up.

Seemingly the guys behind elaborate bytes has ceased ALL support of amiga based systems..... :(
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

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Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2016, 04:38:31 PM »
Quote from: pyrre;809867
Thanks for the heads up.

Seemingly the guys behind elaborate bytes has ceased ALL support of amiga based systems..... :(


Oh sorry, I believed Jens purchased the rights...

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2016, 07:14:09 PM »
Quote from: Cosmos;809870
Oh sorry, I believed Jens purchased the rights...
The enclosed txt file says nothing about rights.
only that some named character at Elaborate no longer works with amiga related projects. and therefor the patch in the "eb_final.lha" is regarded the last and final patch for these systems.
If it is allowed and appropriate i can post the whole txt file here....?

EDIT:
comment on the wiki post regarding this topic:
"Final updates of IDE drivers for iComp products by Elaborate Bytes. This  file was created just before Elaborate Bytes have quit the Amiga  business for good."
Wiki article
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline hese7

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2016, 07:38:58 PM »
Buddha doesn't work with CF drives. You need to use TrueIDE with Buddha for CF cards.
 

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Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2016, 08:54:04 PM »
Quote from: hese7;809885
Buddha doesn't work with CF drives. You need to use TrueIDE with Buddha for CF cards.

Yes, but the patches Cosmos mentions should be able to fix this. However, the IDEFix_patches.readme file contains these lines though:

Requires:     OS 3.0+ and 68000+
Catweasel and non-flash Buddha users will need to burn the driver to a new EPROM.

Which may be a bit problematic.


Another thing is that just like with the A600 and A1200, standard HDToolbox may need to be patched in order to use CF cards: http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/HDToolBoxPatch
Or as an alternative, just simply use HDInstTools instead: http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/hdinst
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2016, 10:25:37 PM »
Quote from: PanterHZ;809887
Yes, but the patches Cosmos mentions should be able to fix this. However, the IDEFix_patches.readme file contains these lines though:

Requires:     OS 3.0+ and 68000+
Catweasel and non-flash Buddha users will need to burn the driver to a new EPROM.

Which may be a bit problematic.


Another thing is that just like with the A600 and A1200, standard HDToolbox may need to be patched in order to use CF cards: http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/HDToolBoxPatch
Or as an alternative, just simply use HDInstTools instead: http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/hdinst
A noob question, how do i apply the patch to the hdtoolbox i use?

EDIT:
Flashing the buddha did magic for transfer speeds, and querying icons in folder and files in browser panes in dopus goes twice as fast as before.
need to find out how to patch HDToolbox and try CF cards again...
« Last Edit: June 11, 2016, 11:44:00 PM by pyrre »
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

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Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2016, 02:01:40 AM »
Quote from: pyrre;809891
A noob question, how do i apply the patch to the hdtoolbox i use?

In addition to the HDToolBoxPatch.lha archive, you will also need this one: http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/gpatch

The below instructions assumes that you are using HDToolBox v40.4

Extract both archives and copy the following files to the Ram disk:

HDToolBox
HDToolBox40.4_MO.gpch
GPatch-2.6

Then enter the following in Shell:

CD Ram:
GPatch-2.6 HDToolBox HDToolBox40.4_MO.gpch HDToolBox-NEW

NB! The old GPatch-2.6 is the only one that works with these .gpch patch files.
 

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Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2016, 05:14:35 AM »
Quote from: hese7;809885
Buddha doesn't work with CF drives. You need to use TrueIDE with Buddha for CF cards.


My Buddha here is working well with very simple 2.5 CF adapter !


@Pyrre

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Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: Some assistance is needed.....
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2016, 03:55:06 PM »
Quote from: PanterHZ;809896
In addition to the HDToolBoxPatch.lha archive, you will also need this one: http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/gpatch

The below instructions assumes that you are using HDToolBox v40.4

Extract both archives and copy the following files to the Ram disk:

HDToolBox
HDToolBox40.4_MO.gpch
GPatch-2.6

Then enter the following in Shell:

CD Ram:
GPatch-2.6 HDToolBox HDToolBox40.4_MO.gpch HDToolBox-NEW

NB! The old GPatch-2.6 is the only one that works with these .gpch patch files.
I should be able to make that work. though, WB2.1 install comes with HDToolbox V2.22
How much does that matter?

EDIT:
Patches are applied to hdtoolbox. the rom of the buddha has been updated. but the buddha does not show up my cf card, even though the cf card is the only device connected to the controller. i see the leds of the cf adapters blink. but nothing happens. I have even made a special disk for the buddha config. with patched hdtoolbox.

Im starting to go blind...

what else is needed?
do i need idefix in the devs folder?

the strange thing is if i use the buddha_atapi.device tooltype hdtoolbox wont find anything connected to buddha. At all....
but using scsi.device it find hdd's just fine. even lets me partition and boot of one.
And i have used all my knowledge i have ever had in amigas. but im shortcomming....
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 07:17:55 PM by pyrre »
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder