duktape error NetSurf OS3

[chris]

I don't know how to find this IRC, so maybe I'll let you ask the question ! ^^

http://www.netsurf-browser.org/contact/

[utri007]

@utri007 & @freeaks OK, the NetSurf Archive available in my GitHub is now whole new fresh (without DukTape) ! ^^ You can test it if you want.

Download link doesn't work

https://github.com/DNADNL/NetScript gives 404 error

[DNADNL]

I don't know how old compile Chris' version is, but there shouldn't be a big diffrence? Could you compile it like apj hinted?



That would make many Vampire FPGA accelerator users happy

Oh, I don't know how to compile for this, sorry... But if you have some Web links, I could go to check if I can do something, but I can't guarantee.

[chris]

Oh, I don't know how to compile for this, sorry... But if you have some Web links, I could go to check if I can do something, but I can't guarantee.

When somebody actually confirms if it works or not I'll commit the change. That's assuming I haven't accidentally committed it already!

[DNADNL]

Download link doesn't work

https://github.com/DNADNL/NetScript gives 404 error

Oops, I forgot to change it in the README ! ^^ It's OK, now. Here is the link if you want : https://github.com/DNADNL/NetScript/raw/master/NetSurf_3.6dev_AmigaOS3_2016-08-05.tar

[DNADNL]

http://www.netsurf-browser.org/contact/

OK, i'll send later an e-mail to the netsurf-dev e-mail address.

[utri007]

Pop in http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=apollo-team

or #apollo-team if you prefer actual irc

There is "only some 100" people online now

[freeaks]

@utri007:
i alway spoke about the latest beta version from here:
http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3
that is the link available from chris page.

@chris:
 you were correct, it seems your latests version can now run on vampire.
thanks a lot for this.

@dnadnl:
thanks for the new build, i'll test it and report. i'm sure others will do so as well.

i have to report something i noticed though,
netsurf is slow to render,
and then slow to scroll even local pages with no javascript and minimal css.
i'm  not bashing, just telling. i think that even if local pages are slow to  render like that, there must be a real problem in the code.
maybe at least the scrolling could be made better with some buffering of the whole page once it is loaded ?

anyway, it is getting better and better and that's great.
keep up the good work

[utri007]

Both version are now identical, no speed diffrences.

[DNADNL]

@utri007:
i alway spoke about the latest beta version from here:
http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3
that is the link available from chris page.

@chris:
 you were correct, it seems your latests version can now run on vampire.
thanks a lot for this.

@dnadnl:
thanks for the new build, i'll test it and report. i'm sure others will do so as well.

i have to report something i noticed though,
netsurf is slow to render,
and then slow to scroll even local pages with no javascript and minimal css.
i'm  not bashing, just telling. i think that even if local pages are slow to  render like that, there must be a real problem in the code.
maybe at least the scrolling could be made better with some buffering of the whole page once it is loaded ?

anyway, it is getting better and better and that's great.
keep up the good work

Welcome to the Nineties ! XD This wonderful time when to load a web page, you had to wait every square to be desplayed, and you could see them appear, square by square,from top/left to bottom/right ! ^^

@utri, thanks for your precision, I'm glad to read that.

[freeaks]

Welcome to the Nineties ! XD This wonderful time when to load a web page, you had to wait every square to be desplayed, and you could see them appear, square by square,from top/left to bottom/right ! ^^

yes, about that, i have a question:
could it be possible to have netsurf to display page loading progressively ?
like every other browser on the planet?
with netsurf it feel mostly like 'all or nothing' meaning we see nothing happen, no progress and then suddenly new the page is completely loaded.
it would be better to see loading happening progressively, we would have a bit less the feeling of waiting.

[utri007]

ShK tried with his Vapire. Amiga org is downloaded and renderer 14.8 seconds.

He had same problem than DNADNL had, was it because of datatypes? No buttons displayed and pictures are dispalyed all rainbow colors, vertical bars.

After installation it also asked usergroup and guigfx libraries. He has already copied them to libs.

Just wonder might this be because of lack of BB1 and 2?

[chris]

yes, about that, i have a question:
could it be possible to have netsurf to display page loading progressively ?
like every other browser on the planet?
with netsurf it feel mostly like 'all or nothing' meaning we see nothing happen, no progress and then suddenly new the page is completely loaded.
it would be better to see loading happening progressively, we would have a bit less the feeling of waiting.

I don't get you. It loads the page content+css and will display that whilst the images are queued to download.
CSS means it takes longer for the initial page to display as that needs to be parsed.
It's no different to any other CSS-supporting browser wrt initial page display.

[freeaks]

@chris, maybe it's just me but, when i load a page with netsurf, i have the impression that nothing happen, nothing moves or changes, and suddenly the finished page appear.
whereas on other browsers, when i load a page, it displays the load as it happens, text and images being loaded. (they might not have their final appearance or placement yet). what i'm trying to say is: on other browsers the page being loaded gets contructed before your eyes. on netsurf it less visible. it's more like: you click a link, nothing happens, you wait.. you wait, and then: 'done' all of sudden.
it would be nice if netsurf could show what it have loaded so far as it gets it, while structuring the datas in their final shapes and placements.
maybe showing the page without css (like ibrowse or aweb) while its parsing css and aranging the page layout in the background, and when its done flip the switch and show the correct final page.

[chris]

@freeaks

There is no point in displaying a page without CSS initially, I've never seen a browser do that. The other stuff is done already. Note that every time the layout changes the page needs to be redrawn - which makes the page take even longer. I think there are configuration options for reflowing etc.

You can watch the status bar if you want to know what it is up to.

[utri007]

I installed winuae and used my really old AmigaForever OS3.X installation, to demonstarted problems myself.

I'm prety sure that display problems DNADNL and ShK are because lack of render.library

If render.library is missing, Netsurf tells it can't found guigfx.library, even if guigfx.library is in right Place. Pictures are also displayed  with all rainbow colors etc.