Amiga OS 3.9 or 4.1 for PPC (and is it worth it?)

[Aegis]

Have you got a good tutorial for setting up the latest winuae? I already have OS 4.1FE and a second pc to run it on?

I'm actually putting together an optimization guide for when 3.3.0 is released

[TheMagicM]

Or if you really want's PPC hardware, get Mac Mini G4 and try MorphOs. I just bought mint Mac Mini G4 1Gb Ram for £40 shipped. Nice machine.

...and if you want MorphOS with you all the time, buy a Powerbook G4 :-)  I love my setup.

[Methanoid]

I'm actually putting together an optimization guide for when 3.3.0 is released

Please post in this thread when you post your guide.. wouldnt wan to miss it!

[utri007]

There is no OS4 for sonnet card, most likely never.

I you want to have Amiga OS4 you could buy second hand Sam 440. Prices can be quite low.

Thay way you could get all the benefits of new hardware and PPC, compared to old original amiga hardware. Hard drives are really fast, even Sam Flex 2x PCI bus is many times faster than Zorro bus etc.

[Acill]

Installed 4.1 classic on my Cyberstorm PPC and A4000T with mediator. It is way faster on my emulated i7 machine. Not worth it at all.

Get yourself a classic PPC Mac and try MorphOS. Its by far the best way to go and for OS4.1 just use it on a PC. Even buying a specific PC for emulating it would be less money than getting a Cyberstorm and be faster in the end.

[Niding]

Im just going to chime in with another comment;

Since you seem to be thinking going with OS 3.9, there is the issue of development.
There are some really nice Boing Bag upgrades, but for the future, Im personally thinking about AROS68k version. Its activly being maintained/developed, and while OS 3.9 is looking really pretty (imho), AROS might be the future for the 68k line.
Thats the best way to avoid the endless "who got rights to what, and how can we figure out what component we can use here and there..."

[agami]

I am 110% behind the Vampire solution. The only issue is availability. I reached out to order an A600 Vampire II via the official email and I also reached out to offer investment to speed things up and get to an A1200 and FPGA cards for other original Amiga systems; No response.

I know many others in this and other forums prefer and welcome a speedier and more colourful OS 3.9 experience.

[Niding]

I was reading in the IRC channel that Kippa (which is soldering the boards), is responding to mails as hes getting closer to your order etc.

I guess the point was; hes probarly swamped and focused on getting the boards delivered, so mails are taking second priority.

They do chat in the IRC channel tho, discussing all kinds of topics.
So maybe join the IRC channel?

[klx300r]

@ Niding

think you meant kipper aka kipper2k;)

[Duce]

As someone that grabbed one of the first SAM's off the line, for day to day use, I consider it one short hair above "useless".

For tinkering around with solely Amiga stuff, I have a lot of fun with it, though.

It is a pain to be constantly reaching for my ipad, solely because the SAM's web browser has puked once again on something as simple as FB, Google Docs, etc.

[agami]

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They do chat in the IRC channel tho, discussing all kinds of topics.
So maybe join the IRC channel?

Thanks for the info.

[utri007]

As someone that grabbed one of the first SAM's off the line, for day to day use, I consider it one short hair above "useless".

For tinkering around with solely Amiga stuff, I have a lot of fun with it, though.

It is a pain to be constantly reaching for my ipad, solely because the SAM's web browser has puked once again on something as simple as FB, Google Docs, etc.

Situation is not different on any Amigish platform. Our best web browser is same.

Amiga is hobby machine, it is OK for general web browsing, like reading dayli news, googlin info about "something", but I wouldn't call Facebook or Google docs simple.

[Lord Aga]

@ Niding

think you meant kipper aka kipper2k;)

Maybe he has a Schwarzenegger accent. Like: "Get to da Kippa' !"
So don't correct the man, it's rude :p

[Duce]

Situation is not different on any Amigish platform. Our best web browser is same.

Amiga is hobby machine, it is OK for general web browsing, like reading dayli news, googlin info about "something", but I wouldn't call Facebook or Google docs simple.

Yes, all the variants and platforms have a similar issue.

If you have to start delineating the practical use of what is being sold as a "modern PC/Amiga" in terms up "Will look up a good quiche recipe, but forget about checking Facebook or using Google Docs", we're really in a sad state.

I've got a 7 year old iphone that has zero problems with anything on the modern web, but no matter how much money I threw into the Modern/"Next Gen" Amiga platform, it'd still be there, from a $300 used SAM440 to a X5000.

Come on, Dude.  Don't lay it at the feet of the people making the websites.  They aren't doing anything wrong, no Black Magic from them.    No other "Modern" systems have an issue with them.  Blame the crap browser, not the site. My old 3GS can use FB just fine, an old Windows 98 machine I've got in a closet even can.

1 billion people log onto FB every single day - I'd call that a pretty basic site.

Earlier tonight, when I was too lazy to bother hopping onto my Win PC, I tried getting on it (FB) on my SAM, which came to a screeching halt.

But yes, by all means, let's keep making more and more powerful hardware to effectively...  Do nothing in the modern, general/daily computing area.

[smf]

Gotta catch em all!

Is't worth it? Hell no! Is it fun? hell yeah!

I have several amigaos & morphos machines and they are pretty useless but i still love them and don't regret a thing.

[kreciu]

Installed 4.1 classic on my Cyberstorm PPC and A4000T with mediator. It is way faster on my emulated i7 machine. Not worth it at all.

Get yourself a classic PPC Mac and try MorphOS. Its by far the best way to go and for OS4.1 just use it on a PC. Even buying a specific PC for emulating it would be less money than getting a Cyberstorm and be faster in the end.

... and considering that in near future we will have better GPU emulation under UAE AmigaOS4.1 + UAE will be best possible option. I hope to actually have one of my old PC's set up to run Amiga Forever as a stand alone computer.

BTW. Can I boot AmigaOS4.1 directly under UAE WITHOUT Windows (using Linux)?

Getting some used PPC board for Amiga is still definitely "fun" (AND expensive!), but it depends from that what you would like to do with Amiga. I have AmigaOS4.1 running on my i7 and its fantastic, but I would like to have "real Amiga" that is useful and Amiga is NOT useful without 040/060 or PPC. My current 030 is great... to run games . It is way to slow to do anything serious.

When you set up you AmigaOS computer ("real" or not) then there is one, tiny problem... LACK OF SOFTWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!