OS3.9 BB3+4 V1.2 Available

[kolla]

But no, the copyrights are not lost, the sources are not lost, and I really *do* have some hope that it should be possible to renovate 3.9 a bit. What triggered all this was of course the arrival of new hardware.

What hardware would that be? I guess your plan is to somehow "lock" newer AmigaOS 3.x to the Apollo core?

[LukasSid]

I'm sick and tired of people like Hyperion who bought some shady rights and now on their website saying how boo is to use 3.1 without paying them.

Everyone who meant to buy 3.1 or 3.9 already did. There is no more money in that software to milk. I'm a Commodore fanboy, Commodore went bankrupt and I will not pay any Cloanto or Hyperion for Commodore stuff. You make 4.1 that's cool but don't be a greedy ......
Sorry for ranting but that's my point of view.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Everyone who meant to buy 3.1 or 3.9 already did.

I think there's still a market for 3.9, as there's several vendors still selling it (and as the demand for updated Boing Bags continues to exist).

Which reminds me that I've been meaning to buy another copy, just in case my original CD ever wears out.  It's relatively cheap, and I support it because I enjoy it.  Just my .02 cents.  

[LukasSid]

mate nice A2000 you got If you own original than you can make iso and keep it  safe on your HD. It's perfectly legal. I also got original 3.1 and 3.9 but that not my point.

[guest11527]

What hardware would that be? I guess your plan is to somehow "lock" newer AmigaOS 3.x to the Apollo core?

No. What actually is wrong with you? Just because I don't agree with your political mission, do you believe that I'm an "evil capitalist" that exploits poor harmless Amiga users?  

Kolla, you're just naive. I'm trying to find workable ways to drive a new development, and you have nothing better to do than to organize a political uproar instead of finding a pragmatic solution for the problem at hand.

[guest11527]

I'm sick and tired of people like Hyperion who bought some shady rights and now on their website saying how boo is to use 3.1 without paying them.

If you already own 3.1, that's perfectly fine. If not, its illegal. Do you agree with this?

Everyone who meant to buy 3.1 or 3.9 already did. There is no more money in that software to milk.

Have you actually read what I've said above? I agree that it makes no sense to sell 3.9 again and I doubt anyone will attempt to do so. That is certainly not *my* plan, and it makes little sense indeed.

But all that aside, it does not put this community into a good light if forums like this advocate the usage of illegal software, and it does not exactly help to improve the confidence into investing some work an money into such a project.

So, no, this is not helping. If you ever want to see new software for classic systems, stop spreading illegal software, or for god's sake, at least stop advocating this activity as "O.K.". It is not "O.K.".

 I'm a Commodore fanboy, Commodore went bankrupt and I will not pay any Cloanto or Hyperion for Commodore stuff. You make 4.1 that's cool but don't be a greedy ......
Sorry for ranting but that's my point of view.

I have no sympathy for PPC or 4.1 either, and neither do I talk about 4.1. Again, I don't understand this product as it is an isolated system without access to legacy applications. And if I would want an emulator, I already have a better, faster one. I don't need overpriced outdated hardware either.

Thus, could you please be so kind and go through again what I've written above?

[kolla]

No. What actually is wrong with you? Just because I don't agree with your political mission, do you believe that I'm an "evil capitalist" that exploits poor harmless Amiga users?

Those are your words. What new hardware?

Kolla, you're just naive. I'm trying to find workable ways to drive a new development, and you have nothing better to do than to organize a political uproar instead of finding a pragmatic solution for the problem at hand.

Political uproar? You give me way too much credit :laughing:

[Gulliver]

Again, that no longer the case, at least according to the folks I talked to. There is currently a window of opportunity for exactly that. The reason that Cloanto has problems with Os 3.9 is not because they are not interested. It is more that Cloanto has unfortunately only rights on 3.1, but not on 3.9.

But no, the copyrights are not lost, the sources are not lost, and I really *do* have some hope that it should be possible to renovate 3.9 a bit. What triggered all this was of course the arrival of new hardware.

Whether this will work or not I cannot promise, of course, but it doesn't really look that bad anymore.

I do believe there is indeed a market for something like a renovated 3.9. It certainly shows a lot through interest in both new hardware and AmigaOS custom modifications/hacks that many of Amiga fans and retro hobbyst will be willing to pay for such upgrade.

[kolla]

Just to make view clear:
* I believe people are willing for OS3.x upgrades
* I belive _even more_ people are willing to pay for having OS3.x open sourced, and by having a donation button. I would personally happily donate monthly, like I support many other projects. I would definitely not do this with a closed source OS3.x continued development. That is the difference between _supporting development_ and _buying a product_.
* I believe it will be difficult to find enough people willing to develop OS3.x much further as a closed source project.

[kolla]

So, no, this is not helping. If you ever want to see new software for classic systems, stop spreading illegal software, or for god's sake, at least stop advocating this activity as "O.K.". It is not "O.K.".

Show some credibility by shutting down "the Zone" on EAB. :laughing:

[TheMagicM]

Show some credibility by shutting down "the Zone" on EAB. :laughing:

No dont. Lmao. I use it.