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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2017, 11:38:45 AM »
Sorry these are not compatible ones. You need Sonnet Crescendo 7200 models.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2017, 01:47:11 PM »
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Sorry these are not compatible ones. You need Sonnet Crescendo 7200 models.

And those are made with unobtainium.
Now that we know these work, why isn't anyone trying to reverse engineer them?

They are obviously the fastest PPC option for legacy systems.
And if new cards could be built, there are faster G3 processors that could be used.

The only problem I see is the limited number of WarpOS titles.

But its damned cool to see a legacy system cranking away like that!
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2017, 05:16:05 PM »
Would Sonnet consider publishing the board layout? The thing is old and most likely publishing will not really harm sales of their current portfolio?
 

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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2017, 05:57:10 PM »
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Would Sonnet consider publishing the board layout? The thing is old and most likely publishing will not really harm sales of their current portfolio?


Ask them. They can reply positively, ignore you or turn you down, but it can't hurt to ask.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2017, 11:21:27 PM »
Seems the Amiga Community knowing about these now has made the "cheap" cards Sonnett blew out for $25 if i remember back when they were doing it has now reached "Amiga" prices. Seen a few on Amibay for over $500.

Really makes me mad at the greed some of the people in our community sink down. Privateering is just wrong.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2017, 12:06:51 AM »
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Realtime comparison of Cyberstorm PPC 604e/333 and Sonnet G3/500


overall sonnes doesnt seem to have much edge on cyberstorm, according to your tests. the one signifficant thing is video playback, which differs so much likely because cyberstorm needs to feed data via pio zorro3 to mediator pci bus rtg card while sonnet can use dma to that rtg card directly/locally on pci.
 

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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2017, 12:10:11 AM »
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Really makes me mad at the greed some of the people in our community sink down. Privateering is just wrong.


its a free market. why should nyone be required to sell whatever is considered a rare luxus to anyone else who would be showing off with it for a decent price?
 

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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2017, 01:06:29 AM »
PPC604e was excellent CPU and it has six-stage pipeline. PPC603e and PPC750 has four-stage pipeline both.

Dont forget my Cyberstorm PPC has the cpu exchanged for the latest revision clocked at 333 MHz. Most of the Amiga users still have the 180/200/233 versions.

When I get Blizzard PPC 603e with Mediator and Voodoo I will do another comparison. This time it will be family related PPCs running both on PCI bus and Voodoo.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2017, 01:06:55 AM »
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its a free market. why should nyone be required to sell whatever is considered a rare luxus to anyone else who would be showing off with it for a decent price?


Sure thats a fair statement, but the fact remains that these were selling at a fraction of the price before this project. My point is that we are far to small to support this kind of greed, and greed is exactly what it is. If people are willing to pay that they can, but the lack of them being sold tells me otherwise.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2017, 03:51:14 AM »
talk to people who buy them. you think they care of your approval?
 

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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2017, 09:25:54 AM »
I am not happy how the prices increased, but there is nothing I can do about it.

On the other hand how much do you think cost me the Cyberstorm PPC including all the upgrades (604e/333 MHz, 060 rev6)? About 1400 EUR... :/
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2017, 09:32:26 AM »
Great article with good comparisons and movies, thank you Jack-3d !
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2017, 11:45:51 AM »
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talk to people who buy them. you think they care of your approval?

Still doesn't makes them NOT greedy f*cks. :roflmao:

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overall sonnes doesnt seem to have much edge on cyberstorm, according to your tests. the one signifficant thing is video playback, which differs so much likely because cyberstorm needs to feed data via pio zorro3 to mediator pci bus rtg card while sonnet can use dma to that rtg card directly/locally on pci.

Look like a pretty significant advantage to me.
And that's just a G3 cpu, imagine what a G4 would perform like, especially since they can run 2 or 3 times faster.

Again, an updated version of this card would be SO cool.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 on Amiga
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2017, 01:04:32 PM »
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Again, an updated version of this card would be SO cool.

:D Ratte and Mastatabs from a1k.org are working on that..... it´s done, when it´s done......
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