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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« on: January 06, 2016, 06:13:27 PM »
So what is the best icon library to use on an A2000 with OS3.1 with only 1mb chip and 2mb fast?
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
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Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
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Offline Gulliver

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 06:21:32 PM »
The best one is without a doubt PeterK“s icon.library 46.4.417 (the 68000 version).
Use it with RemLib (included in the older Aminet release) to save  on memory.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=64079&highlight=iconlib
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 06:33:13 PM »
You say "icon set" in your subject, but "icon library" in the post.  Not sure which you mean?  That's two different things.

In any case, best icon.library for any system is going to be Peter K.'s.  You'll need to use LoadModule or LoadResident with 3.1, with 3.5 or 3.9 it's just "drag & drop":

http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4

And MagicWB for the icon set:

http://aminet.net/package/pix/mwb/StandardMagicWB16
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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 06:36:25 PM »
Thanks guys :)
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
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Offline paul1981

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 02:20:33 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;801541
You say "icon set" in your subject, but "icon library" in the post.  Not sure which you mean?  That's two different things.

In any case, best icon.library for any system is going to be Peter K.'s.  You'll need to use LoadModule or LoadResident with 3.1, with 3.5 or 3.9 it's just "drag & drop":

http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4

And MagicWB for the icon set:

http://aminet.net/package/pix/mwb/StandardMagicWB16


Thanks for the MagicWB16 link! I must have missed this back in October. Cheers!
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 02:23:33 AM »
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Thanks for the MagicWB16 link! I must have missed this back in October. Cheers!

It is a heck of a set!  I couldn't believe how many icons were in there, some serious work by the folks who put it together (and of course the people who created all the icons, too).

I know some people think it looks dated, but to me that just means "classic"!  :lol:
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Offline paul1981

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 02:40:39 AM »
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It is a heck of a set!  I couldn't believe how many icons were in there, some serious work by the folks who put it together (and of course the people who created all the icons, too).

I know some people think it looks dated, but to me that just means "classic"!  :lol:


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Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 02:47:26 AM »
What is all this about MagicWB and icons? I haven't used MagicWB since WB1.3. I didn't really care for it though. How do you access all the icons without installing MWB, in particular with OS3.9?

Maybe I should just DL and see what the deal is? :)

DL'd and checked it out. It seems just as I remember. Just a bunch of pink rectangles representing progs, prefs, folders, etc....  They don't look at all cool like OS3.5/3.9 icons. I don't get what the hub-bub's about.

BTW, I just copied over Peter K's Icon library to my OS3.9 libs folder, rebooted and all the icons turned ugly and opaque-ish. What's up with that? Keep in mind I don't have an RTG card... just Indie ECS.
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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 03:47:56 AM »
Ok, so I've got Peter Ks icon set on my Amiga 2000 the instal notes are a bit cryptic so I copy the icon.library_6800 over to the Libs drawer what's next? Do I copy everything from the C drawer in his folder over to c on my Amiga?
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Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 03:55:19 AM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;801591
Ok, so I've got Peter Ks icon set on my Amiga 2000 the instal notes are a bit cryptic so I copy the icon.library_6800 over to the Libs drawer what's next? Do I copy everything from the C drawer in his folder over to c on my Amiga?


Not sure about the C drawer but, did you rename icon.library to icon.library.old and rename icon.library_6800 to icon.library? If you have an accelerator use the 020 version - but you probably already know all this. :)
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A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 04:10:18 AM »
Odly the Libs drawer on the Amiga does not have a "icon.library" in there? It has lots of other xxx.library icons
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 04:14:30 AM by tonyvdb »
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 04:41:13 AM »
No no no.  Icon.library is built into ROM.  With 3.5 and 3.9 they "look on the disk" to see if there's a newer version first, as opposed to automatically using the version that's on the ROM.

3.0/3.1 isn't that smart, so you need to force it to use the updated version on your disk by putting either the LoadModule or LoadResident command before SetPatch in your Startup-Sequence:

Code: [Select]
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT

Or the more full example, given in the docs:

Code: [Select]
Version >NIL: icon.library 46
If WARN
   If EXISTS LIBS:workbench.library
      LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:workbench.library
   EndIf
   LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT
EndIf

SetPatch QUIET

You'd need to use Ed to edit one or the other of the above statements into your S:Startup-Sequence.

Aside from LoadResident (or LoadModule) the rest of the stuff in the C drawer of the installer is optional.  It's for if you want to do things like make outlines around your Workbench fonts, and other little tricks.  :)
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 04:43:15 AM »
Oh yeah - and rename icon.library_68000 to just icon.library.  Like Gizmo said.  ;)
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Offline paul1981

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2016, 10:56:22 AM »
Quote from: gizmo350;801588
What is all this about MagicWB and icons? I haven't used MagicWB since WB1.3. I didn't really care for it though. How do you access all the icons without installing MWB, in particular with OS3.9?

Maybe I should just DL and see what the deal is? :)

DL'd and checked it out. It seems just as I remember. Just a bunch of pink rectangles representing progs, prefs, folders, etc....  They don't look at all cool like OS3.5/3.9 icons. I don't get what the hub-bub's about.


Read this:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=54011
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: What is the best icon set to use on A2000 with 3.1
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2016, 11:07:11 AM »
You need FullPalette to lock the pens.  Mfilos's guide is really good, too:

http://www.mfilos.com/2012/01/guide-making-workbench-prettier-using.html

Although personally I wouldn't use Birdie on a 16-color screen (like he did), I still run the Rebel Palette on my A500.

And MagicWB is nice on the system specs OP posted about (2MB fast / 1MB chip / 3.1 / 68000).  Not going to be running 3.9 GlowIcons/Ken's Icons/etc. on that!  ;)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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