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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

PAL on A2000HD?
« on: December 23, 2015, 03:46:08 AM »
So I've got an Amiga 2000HD with OS2.1 going but I'm new to this version. How does one switch to play PAL games? On the 4000 I just went into the startup menu (holding both mouse buttons down) on this 2000 I don't see an option to switch modes?

On a side note the monitor I'm using is an old 2080 so only one speaker. Im Guessing that it's not a good idea to adapt a stereo cord to mono so I can hear both channels through that one speaker?
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2015, 04:14:57 AM »
Assuming you have at least Kickstart 2.04 ROM's you should have an early startup menu.  However if your 2000 has an early model Agnus (8370, 8371) it may not be switchable to PAL.  You'd need to upgrade that.  The 8372A is a drop-in replacement for most motherboard models that's pretty easy to source (came in most later model A500's/2000's), and would allow you to do the chip ram mod (1MB chip ram instead of 512K chip/512k fast), as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_Agnus

AFAIK shouldn't be a problem using the splitter cable to join the audio channels, but it's been at least 20 years since I've done that.  Might want to wait for a better answer, on that one.

As an alternative, I'm sure your local craigslist has plenty of cheap-o stereo receivers that you could hook up for real stereo sound.  That's what I always did, back in the day.  ;)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

Offline paul1981

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2015, 10:34:25 AM »
http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/Degrader

Degrader I find is very useful for pal/ntsc switching when using floppy based games. Sometimes only this program will ensure that the game runs in your preferred 50/60Hz.
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 02:12:27 PM »
+1 for Degrader. Regarding audio, I think if you connect only 1 of the audio jacks, the Amiga will automatically mix down to mono audio. Otherwise, a y-cable should be fine - I used that kind of setup for years with a mono 1084.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 02:22:39 PM »
Thank you guys, I know I have a "newer" version of the motherboard in this 2000 rev 6. something if I remember right. Ill look into my options, Thanks
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline mechy

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 02:38:53 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;800652
Thank you guys, I know I have a "newer" version of the motherboard in this 2000 rev 6. something if I remember right. Ill look into my options, Thanks


Sounds like everyone covered everything, but i would suggest upgrading to 3.1, since 2.x offers nothing really and 3.1 won't really break compatibility.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 02:54:50 PM »
So 3.1 is still going to keep the 2000 compatibility for games? my 4000 sucks for playing games because of the faster CPU and other issues. I bought the 2000 for my kids to play these classic games on that wont run on my 4000.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 04:12:15 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;800657
So 3.1 is still going to keep the 2000 compatibility for games? my 4000 sucks for playing games because of the faster CPU and other issues. I bought the 2000 for my kids to play these classic games on that wont run on my 4000.


I know I sound like a broken record here, but why don't you just use WHDLoad?  Although if you really want a "classic game experience", go back to 1.2 or 1.3, lol. ;)

Also, I don't think the Amiga mixes audio channels. Plug in one channel, you'll get one channel. Although maybe something newer (like a 4000) would do it.
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

Offline paul1981

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2015, 05:00:28 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;800664
I know I sound like a broken record here, but why don't you just use WHDLoad?  Although if you really want a "classic game experience", go back to 1.2 or 1.3, lol. ;)

Also, I don't think the Amiga mixes audio channels. Plug in one channel, you'll get one channel. Although maybe something newer (like a 4000) would do it.


A1200 does mix audio channels if either L or R is connected. Presumably A600, A4000 and CD32 will behave the same...but that's just a guess on my part.
 

Offline mechy

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2015, 05:02:49 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;800657
So 3.1 is still going to keep the 2000 compatibility for games? my 4000 sucks for playing games because of the faster CPU and other issues. I bought the 2000 for my kids to play these classic games on that wont run on my 4000.


one word man, WHDLOAD   stuff works fine on a A4000/040.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2015, 06:59:37 PM »
Yup, plan on installing that but need to get a cd drive in that a2000 first as the LZH file of WHDload is too large to fit on a floppy.
The kids are not allowed to use my 4000, it's off limits.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: PAL on A2000HD?
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2015, 08:28:06 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;800808
Yup, plan on installing that but need to get a cd drive in that a2000 first as the LZH file of WHDload is too large to fit on a floppy.
The kids are not allowed to use my 4000, it's off limits.


Whdload_user_small on the official website is only 684k and contains everything you need. If you really want to strip it smaller just grab the C:Whdload executable and ramdic, and the couple other executables in the archive. The rest of the size is just documentation. ;)

Easily transferable on a floppy. ;)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos