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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

SCSI to SATA adapter?
« on: December 11, 2015, 10:52:06 PM »
So been thinking with SSD drives becoming the norm I was going to try one on my Video Toaster Flyer. Is there such a thing as an affordable SCSI to SATA adapter? Ive seen some but they are well over $100 and that seems outrageous.
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Offline mechy

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 11:52:47 PM »
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So been thinking with SSD drives becoming the norm I was going to try one on my Video Toaster Flyer. Is there such a thing as an affordable SCSI to SATA adapter? Ive seen some but they are well over $100 and that seems outrageous.[/QUOTE

They were affordable(the 7720u,7722,7720uw etc) were affordable and downright cheap on the used market for many years, but they have been snapped up by everyone and are more costly now. the 7730a was for 68pin uwscsi to sata. i currently use it in my 4k with a samsung 850 pro ssd. there is the same thing under addonics name(i think i got it for $79? new a year or 2 ago). addonics # is ADSALVD160 just a rebadged acard. the firmware upgrades work on it from acard site. you might find a good price with some google digging. any of the above would work to use a cf in a ide to cf adapter(except 7730a and addonics which is sata).


another option might be:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CF-AztecMonster-CF-3-5inc-SCSI-Converter-New-Condition-for-Vintage-Computer-/301820877738?hash=item4645ed1baa:g:F3MAAOSw1XdUXEEp

Not any cheaper though ;/

I dont think the scsi2sd will work for a flyer, its pretty darn slow:

http://shop.codesrc.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=58

i think amigakit sells these cheaper,at least i believe it to be the same thing. they run maybe 2 MB/s so it may be too slow for video.
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2015, 04:33:04 PM »
A few users have reported problems with the AztecMonster on some SCSI controllers. For instance, I can't get it working on my A3000. I'm going to give it a try on my CSPPC however. There's another board by the maker of the AztecMonster that's a direct SATA adapter, meaning it plugs into a SATA drive like the ACard. The same seller on eBay has them.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 10:22:48 PM »
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Quote from: tonyvdb;800122
So been thinking with SSD drives becoming the norm I was going to try one on my Video Toaster Flyer. Is there such a thing as an affordable SCSI to SATA adapter? Ive seen some but they are well over $100 and that seems outrageous.
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another option might be:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CF-AztecMonster-CF-3-5inc-SCSI-Converter-New-Condition-for-Vintage-Computer-/301820877738?hash=item4645ed1baa:g:F3MAAOSw1XdUXEEp

That's an option for sure but not really cheap. I do like that it's all in one with the CF card. I guess some more research is needed.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 05:29:30 PM »
This one looks interesting,
https://www.itead.cc/scsi2sd.html?gclid=CNrusevv28kCFQEaaQodc4EACA

Would the transfer rate be fast enough, Any thoughts?
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline mechy

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 06:00:15 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;800236
This one looks interesting,
https://www.itead.cc/scsi2sd.html?gclid=CNrusevv28kCFQEaaQodc4EACA

Would the transfer rate be fast enough, Any thoughts?

That is the same thing i showed above, amigakit sells them now and a host of others.. they only do around 2MB/s i believe.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 06:52:53 PM »
2mb per second, I wonder if thats fast enough? What was the old SCSI 2 transfer rate on the flyer card?

Here is the data I found on the flyer:
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/flyer
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

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Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PM »
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Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 07:51:33 PM »
Anyone tried one of these in an A590? I would love to pull my Mechy multi-card reader out of the A590 and pop it into my A2000. :)
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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 08:48:51 PM »
My concern is the transfer speed, its only 2.5mbps where SCSI2 is between 10 - 20mbps
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Offline mechy

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 08:52:44 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;800236
This one looks interesting,
https://www.itead.cc/scsi2sd.html?gclid=CNrusevv28kCFQEaaQodc4EACA

Would the transfer rate be fast enough, Any thoughts?

check the disk speed of your current setup. maybe use it to compare. Other wise the only way to know is to buy one and try it :)
 

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Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2015, 01:32:06 AM »
The Aztec works fine in my A3000.  I have the newer SCSI chip, and I had to disable termination.  After I got that working (about 3.75MB/s), I put it on my Warp040 board's SCSI... now I get 8MB/s.  :)
 

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Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 07:22:56 AM »
The SCSI2SD replacement isn't fast. I have one in a A500 with A590; it is noticably slower than the 2 GB SCSI drive I replaced it with. The quiet operation makes up for the lack of speed in my case though.
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Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 02:34:18 PM »
@doctorq
Thanks for the info... good to know! :)

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Offline mechy

Re: SCSI to SATA adapter?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2015, 03:20:53 PM »
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The Aztec works fine in my A3000.  I have the newer SCSI chip, and I had to disable termination.  After I got that working (about 3.75MB/s), I put it on my Warp040 board's SCSI... now I get 8MB/s.  :)

Those should be pretty fast since he just integrated the acard 7720 with a cf into 1 board. some people have reported problems with them,but hard to tell if it was just a termination issue or missing term power(diode d800 on 3000 bad or wrong way round?). Might even be the firmware rev.

It is too bad there is not a $50 version of it. Maybe someone should build one(hint jim hint hint) :)