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a1200 accelerator
« on: October 12, 2015, 03:02:50 PM »
hi, what accelerator should i go for.
im looking for somehing kinda fast
has a card in now with memory and a mathco
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 05:22:32 PM »
You need to give more specifics than this, such as if you want something new or used, whether you just want something a little faster for playing games or if you want to run PPC/OS4, and what your budget is.

Start here:  http://amiga.resource.cx/dir/a1200proc
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 06:24:11 PM »
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hi, what accelerator should i go for.
im looking for somehing kinda fast
has a card in now with memory and a mathco


If you want to run OS4, you're boned.  You won't get a decent card for less than $500, if that cheap, and that's just the start.

Honestly, go for an ACA1221 and enjoy.  If you're patient the Vampire series may make it to production then to the A1200; it is an m68k reinvented in 200mhz(ish) FPGA format and if it delivers on its promised speeds will go faster than any 68k Amiga has ever gone without emulation.
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 03:37:23 AM »
I consider an A1200 with an 030 50MHz as pretty much a minimum.
Though the the true potential of the m68k platform doesn't shine through until you have at least an 040.
Accelerators with an 040/060 are rarer and tend to cost quite a bit more.

Here' are my thoughts on upgrading an original Amiga with a PPC card in 2015:
You'd have to be one of those tech oddity collectors with lots and lots and lots of discretionary income to pay for one of these.

For the price of a PPC accelerator there are much better options.
- If supporting PPC (PowerISA) is your primary goal, then an Acube board or a used PowerPC Mac is a better proposition.
- If supporting AmigaOS 4.x is your primary goal, then an intel Core i7 PC running UAE with PPC emulation is better proposition.
- You can combine support for PPC and OS4 with the upcoming Acube A1222.
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 12:31:06 PM »
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hi, what accelerator should i go for.
im looking for somehing kinda fast
has a card in now with memory and a mathco


Any particular reason you need the maths coprocessor? Do you mean you already have a card with a coprocessor? If you want speed then any 040 or above. A 40MHz 68040 is a very fast Amiga.
 

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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 01:31:52 PM »
Check all those Sysinfo and AIBB benchmark tests. The more MIPS the better.
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 06:17:27 PM »
100mips plus or nothing. Apollo 060@80MHz or higher is when life starts to be interesting :)
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2015, 07:10:40 PM »
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100mips plus or nothing. Apollo 060@80MHz or higher is when life starts to be interesting :)

Sure.  Give me yours?  :lol:
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2015, 08:13:14 PM »
You could go for the new ACA 1221 accelerator as on http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1251 , but they seem to be currently out of stock, or perhaps they're still available on http://www.vesalia.de , but they may have decided not to mention if they're out of stock. They were on holiday taking pre orders for this card before they came back.

You also need to consider why you want to buy an accelerator. I've recently been exploring the gradient fill options in Deluxe Paint 4.5 on my Amiga A1200 with 2Mb upgrade card in the PCMCIA slot. This is like a basic type of raytracing, with some fairly impressive results.

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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 08:34:17 PM »
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You also need to consider why you want to buy an accelerator. I've recently been exploring the gradient fill options in Deluxe Paint 4.5 on my Amiga A1200 with 2Mb upgrade card in the PCMCIA slot. This is like a basic type of raytracing, with some fairly impressive results.


PCMCIA RAM in an A1200 does not accelerate it, quite the opposite.
Its a Decelerator :)
 

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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 09:49:10 PM »
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PCMCIA RAM in an A1200 does not accelerate it, quite the opposite.
Its a Decelerator :)


I never said that my 2Mb PCMCIA RAM card was an accelerator, but obviously accelerator cards for the A1200 usually contain extra RAM. I was asking what this user wanted to do with an accelerator card and/or extra RAM.
 

Offline paul1981

Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2015, 12:45:22 AM »
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Sure.  Give me yours?  :lol:


You'd need an A1200. Unless you meant his whole rig? Lol
 

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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2015, 01:11:03 AM »
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You'd need an A1200. Unless you meant his whole rig? Lol

Yeah, I'll take that, too.  ;)

Although if this clown can hack an A2320 board inside an A500, maybe I can hack an Apollo '060 into my A2000.  ;)  (kidding!)
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2015, 07:35:59 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;797452
Sure.  Give me yours?  :lol:


LOL we have a kiwi expression "Yeah....... nah" hehehe
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Re: a1200 accelerator
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2015, 10:11:37 AM »
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PCMCIA RAM in an A1200 does not accelerate it, quite the opposite.


There are PCMCIA cards that improve A1200 performance compared to stock. It all depends on the access time. For example Sakura PCMCIA SRAM that I co-developed speeds up A1200.