OS 3.9 installation issues

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

When I stopped using os 3.1's CD0 and installed the 3.9 CDROM software the CD started showing full file names which is great, but I can't seem to be able to properly extract any of the boingbags.  Each one says the file "AmigaOS-Update" is corrupt and fails CRC check or something like that.

What tool are you using to extract them?  Just use LHA.run from Aminet and extract them to RAM:.

[dschallock]

Ok, so I switched to using nero on the pc to burn the CD and it solved the corrupt file problem.
I was able to decompress boingbag1 with no corrupt errors.
Now the problem is I start to run the update and I get XAD password errors.  Unable to depack XAD missing password.
Any idea whats up with that?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Your other option if you are still unsuccessful in getting a working unarchiver over onto the Amiga-side:

Use WinRAR and unarchive all of them on a PC, then burn the unarchived contents onto a CD like this:

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Now the problem is I start to run the update and I get XAD password errors.  Unable to depack XAD missing password.
Any idea whats up with that?

Look for the file S:xadmaster.key

It should be on your OS3.9 CD and installed as part of the initial installation.

If it's missing look on the CD again.  

[dschallock]

I can't find the xadmaster key file anywhere on the OS 3.9 CD nor can I find it on my system. hmmmmm.....

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I can't find the xadmaster key file anywhere on the OS 3.9 CD nor can I find it on my system. hmmmmm.....

Try this one.  Second link from the top.  Freely released by the author.  It might not be "the" problem but it's certainly "a" problem.

http://www.vht-dk.dk/amiga/diverse/unsorted.htm

If that doesn't work I can send you a copy of mine in the morning.  Go to sleep.  :p

[wampuscat]

I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember reading that the WarpEngine is incompatible with the standard SCSI chip on the A3000, but will work with a .08 version SCSI chip.

[dschallock]

Try this one.  Second link from the top.  Freely released by the author.  It might not be "the" problem but it's certainly "a" problem.

http://www.vht-dk.dk/amiga/diverse/unsorted.htm

Thanks Mike, I downloaded it.  I will try it when I get home from work today. Around 4pm California time.

If that doesn't work I can send you a copy of mine in the morning.  Go to sleep.  :p

Dude, you are so right, and I finally did go to sleep :insane:.  Pounding my head against against my miggie till 2 in the morning and then having to be up at 5am for work. :rofl: hahaha... took me back to the 90's when I would work on my Amiga all night.   Man, I never remember having so much trouble installing a version of Amiga OS though. I think I'm getting close.  I wish I knew what was causing the setpatch error early on.  My gut feeling is that setpatch thing is a root of some problem.

I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember reading that the WarpEngine  is incompatible with the standard SCSI chip on the A3000, but will work  with a .08 version SCSI chip.

Thanks for the feedback.  I used to have issues using the standard scsi.device along side the warpengine.device but I thought those problems went away when I upgraded the superbuster chip.  In any case, I don't think I'm getting any device errors from the 2 scsi controllers now.  I was getting corrupted files from the CD, but I switched burning software on the pc and the corrupted files went away... so makes me believe the controllers are working ok on the Amiga.

[dschallock]

OldsmobileMike, looks like the Xad keyfile didn't do the trick.  Same errors saying I'm missing the password or key.  Not sure if you have one I could try?

I'm still unable to make an emergency boot disk that I can actually boot from.  It always crashes on the setpatch.  I tried replacing the setpatch file and the 68040 file on the emergency floppy disk to see if that would help, but alas... nothing.

I'm starting to wonder if I will ever get a stable 3. install.

Thanks for the help all.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

What version of SetPatch? Did you see note above about trying different versions 44.13, 44.16, and 44.38?

Could you post a screenshot of the exact xad message you're getting?

[dschallock]

What version of SetPatch? Did you see note above about trying different versions 44.13, 44.16, and 44.38?

Could you post a screenshot of the exact xad message you're getting?

Yeah, when I get home today I am going to start over and this time I am going to stop at the first problem and post the screen shot and not move on until that problem is solved.

I downloaded a setpatch from the web yesterday along with what I believe to be the latest 68040 library, plus the latest picasso96 software.  All of it was giving me problems last night. :eek:. The frustrating thing is that the problems don't seem to be consistent either.  One time I did a fresh install of 3.1 over a freshly formatted workbench partition and then I installed the original floppy disk version of picasso96 and the original warpengine 68040 library and immediately made an emergency boot disk at that point.  And it worked (meaning it booted without a setpatch error).  But I have never been able to recreate that sequence again.  I always get a setpatch error ever since.  The one time it did work, I reformatted the workbench partition so I could do the 3.9 install on a fresh reformat and anyway after the format when I tried to double click on the install icon for 3.9 it asked me to re-insert the workbench drive. :madashell:.  
I remember when I bought 3.9 when it first came out, I remember installing it as an update over my working 3.1 system and I don't remember things not working.  I remember even amidock working out the gate.  Now I do as clean an install as I can (over a fresh 3.1 install since I can't get a boot disk to work) and amidock is crashing right off the bat.  Half the time I try to relaunch the 3.9 installer so I can install in the internet software too (Cause I watched your video and I know I need it so the boingbag updates can update it) and anway, half the time it gives me an "c/installer" crash.  It's all pretty frustrating, and it probably doesn't help anything that I am still shaking the rust off my Amiga savvy-ness.
** I am super grateful to everyone here is helping me through this though!  I think it would be too daunting to do this alone. **
I'll restart this afternoon after work, and I'll post exactly the first step.  Versions I am using, and I'll include a screen shot of what is going on.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

You need to figure out your SetPatch error, first.  If you boot with no Startup-Sequence and just type in "setpatch", what happens?  And which version?  Be specific.

You might also want to throw away any of your old CD's that you burned with the program that was giving disc errors, and burn a whole new set of everything.  Just to rule that out as a possible issue.

I don't know anything about what specific 68040.library you need for your card (I use THoR's libraries and they work great).  I would say just start with whatever's on the install disk for your specific card.  You have a WarpEngine, right?  Then use these:  http://amiga.resource.cx/install/WarpEngine.dms

You're right, it should not be this hard.  But we suffer for our hobby, it's an act of love.  

[PanterHZ]

SetPatch is one thing, but what about the "AmigaOS ROM Update" file it uses, is it present in the Devs drawer of the Emergency Disk, and does it have the correct name? Also, I don't think using a different version of SetPatch is such a good idea, since it might lead to a conflict when SetPatch is run for the third time (from the CD) upon booting.

I have a feeling that using the default OS3.1 CD file system might be the root of your problems, since this will only use the 8.3 file & dir naming method, which leads to certain file names being truncated (and the extensions as well). This file system is only to be considered as a "better than nothing" type of solution. So after making sure that it's possible to access your AmigaOS 3.9 CD, you should have just copied the CacheCDFS file to the Devs drawer on your Workbench partition, and then tried to configure a proper mount file which uses it.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I don't think using a different version of SetPatch is such a good idea, since it might lead to a conflict when SetPatch is run for the third time (from the CD) upon booting.

I think he's using a 3.1 SetPatch in there, in conflict with a 3.9 SetPatch, or something.  He mentioned "one he downloaded from the web", which could be anything, who knows?  

Tough to diagnose this problem until we start getting some actual version numbers and screenshots of the actual error message.  

[dschallock]

OK... LETS DO THIS!
I reformatted Workbench.

I am now in installing 3.1

When that completes should I install the original picasso96 software and copy the 68040.library from the original warpengine disk before attempting to make a emergency boot disc?

I know we want to know setpatch version and to do the boot with no startup sequence and type setpatch and see what happens, so I will do that too and I will be specific!

[dschallock]

ok, we have a fresh 3.1 install

Here are the current versions installed presently.

Kickstart 40.68
workbench 40.42
setpatch 40.16
68040.library 37.30

I checked on the original warpengine floppy and the 68040.library is also version 37.30 so there is no point in copying since it appears the 3.1 install already has that version.

I mounted CD0 and from the shell checked some versions on the 3.9 install disc in CD0:EMERGENCY-BOOT/
setpatch 44.17
and apparently there is no 68040.library, at least not in the EMERGENCY-BOOT/LIBS/ folder.

So where should I go from here?  Should I install the picasso96 software? Or should I go right to trying to create an emergency boot disc?